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re: If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?

Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:49 am to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:49 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
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Well I am trying? I just guess if I want to See LSU play a 3rd team from the New East LSU needs to win the West and play Bama, UGA, Florida, etc in Atlanta.
8 west
8 east

7 games in division
4 games in other division (rotates to where you play every non-division team every 2 years) - NO PERMANENT OPPONENTS are necessary because the real ones will be within the divisions)
1 non-conference, Ga/Ga. Tech, USCe/Clemson, Fla/FSU, etc.
You'll love this!....trust me.


So 11 SEC games, now I know your trolling. I don't see that. But like I said what will be what will be.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
3672 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:49 am to
why wouldn't they keep Ark with LSU and MS and have AM, UT, OU, Mizz if they did this pod thing?

Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:51 am to
This is the most balanced of all the proposals...

Ole Miss, State, LSU, A&M
Arkansas, Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma
Auburn, Bama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky USCe
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:51 am to
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why wouldn't they keep Ark with LSU and MS and have AM, UT, OU, Mizz if they did this pod thing?

Add Miss. St. and you've got the perfect Western Division!
Posted by Tigerfan0318
Missouri
Member since Oct 2018
1693 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:54 am to
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North:
Oklahoma
Mizzou
Vanderbilt
Kentucky


I would accept this.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:00 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
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why wouldn't they keep Ark with LSU and MS and have AM, UT, OU, Mizz if they did this pod thing?
Add Miss. St. and you've got the perfect Western Division!


Coachcrisp: Serious question, what are the local print media like Cecil Hurt saying over in Alabama, I am sure he has some "Sauces" at the League office.

My question is are the PODs that the SEC Network put out just a trial balloon put out by some Intern or Producer or was it an actual POD that came from the League Office?

If was just a trial balloon from a Intern or Producer, are those 2 8 Team West/East Divisions you put out legitimate?

If so, 7-2 format, or 7-4 format (which sounds a little far fetched)
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:03 am to
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You start with two traditional powers in each pod. You group the two power based on a past rivalry or potential new rivalry. You group the others based on geographic location.

Why don't you just lay out your idea by team, then it can be discussed..too much vagueness like it is.




Here are the Top 8 traditional powers in the SEC:

Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Texas
Oklahoma

You have the traditional middle of the pack programs from other Conferences:

Arkansas
Texas A&M
Missouri
South Carolina (independent)

Then there is the rest of the League:
Kentucky
Vandy
Ole Miss
Miss St

You group:
AL-AU
OU-TX
LSU-UT
UGA-UF

Then add 1 each from the second group:
AL-AU......Ark
OU-TX......Missouri
LSU-UT.....Tx A&M
UGA-UF.....USC

And finally the filler group:
AL-AU......Ark......MSU
OU-TX......Missouri....Vandy
LSU-UT.....Tx A&M.....Ole Miss
UGA-UF.....USC.......UK

You lose the Vandy-UT, Egg Bowl and UT-Bama game every year.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29972 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:10 am to
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Ole Miss, State, LSU, A&M
Arkansas, Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma
Auburn, Bama, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky USCe


Think maybe they switch A&M, Arkansas. Maybe not though. either would work. These are the likely brackets with A&M/Texas being the wildcard that could shuffle those top two around.
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You’ll play every team every four years. Play your pod and then play 6 additional games.


If they do a rotational pod to pod matchup, you'll play every team in each pod every 3 years.

3 games vs your pod
4 games vs paired pod
2 games total vs other pods 1 per pod

9 SEC games total

Posted by dcml
Member since Jul 2021
98 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:14 am to
For the sec championship game matchup do you just take the top 2 teams no matter which pod they are in.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:26 am to
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For the sec championship game matchup do you just take the top 2 teams no matter which pod they are in.




No, I think you take each pod winner and have a four team playoff. Would be really interesting to play it like the NFL. Each Pod team play a home and home game (6 games), another pod rotated every 2 years (4 games) and 2 non-conference games.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17330 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:26 am to
I hope we get OU, UT, and LSU all in our pod. frick trying to land the Mississippi school or vandy or Kentucky.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:35 am to
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Coachcrisp: Serious question, what are the local print media like Cecil Hurt saying over in Alabama, I am sure he has some "Sauces" at the League office.

My question is are the PODs that the SEC Network put out just a trial balloon put out by some Intern or Producer or was it an actual POD that came from the League Office?

If was just a trial balloon from a Intern or Producer, are those 2 8 Team West/East Divisions you put out legitimate?

If so, 7-2 format, or 7-4 format (which sounds a little far fetched)
Cecil is still pounding on the event, itself, and hasn't gotten off into the "nuts and bolts" of it. All that is being pumped to Tuscaloosa is coming from Blake Toppmeyer @ USA Today, so we can take that with a grain of salt.
Imo, the traditional rivalry thing could be the roadblock for this to move forward. I don't see Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, Vandy and Florida going along without continuing these interwoven rivalries (too much pushback from the powerful "oldtimers".
That's honestly why I figured that the 8-team divisions would solve that problem...we'll see.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:37 am to
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Cecil is still pounding on the event, itself, and hasn't gotten off into the "nuts and bolts" of it. All that is being pumped to Tuscaloosa is coming from Blake Toppmeyer @ USA Today, so we can take that with a grain of salt.
Imo, the traditional rivalry thing could be the roadblock for this to move forward. I don't see Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee, Vandy and Florida going along without continuing these interwoven rivalries (too much pushback from the powerful "oldtimers".
That's honestly why I figured that the 8-team divisions would solve that problem...we'll see.


Ok, but the major historic SEC rivals, if that is driving the schedule concerns are the 4 we all know, Bama/Auburn, Bama/TENN, UGA/Auburn, UGA/Florida.

Your 8 team divisions as you laid them out meets all those historic non-negotiable rivalries.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21778 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:40 am to
There is zero chance that Texas and A&M aren't playing each other every year under this scenario. Less than zero.

A&M, OU, Texas, and Arkansas will all be in the same pod
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55217 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:42 am to
I really would be disappointed if we didn’t get to play LSU in Arkansas every year, I also really enjoy the Auburn match up, but none of it’s in my control so I’m just not gonna worry about it until the new schedules are set.

But LSU, Arkansas and Auburn or the fans that I truly enjoy the most.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:45 am to
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Ok, but the major historic SEC rivals, if that is driving the schedule concerns are the 4 we all know, Bama/Auburn, Bama/TENN, UGA/Auburn, UGA/Florida.

Your 8 team divisions as you laid them out meets all those historic non-negotiable rivalries.
Correct! and that solves that problem.
If we go to 9 conference games a year, we'll be playing the other division's teams every 4 years, but every TWO @ an 11 SEC game schedule!
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:48 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
There is zero chance that Texas and A&M aren't playing each other every year under this scenario. Less than zero.

A&M, OU, Texas, and Arkansas will all be in the same pod


Ok, we talking PODS again or Divisions.

So the POD would be Texas, OU, Arkansas and OU.

Then LSU, would be with MIZZOU, Ole Miss and Miss. State?


The problem with 4 4 team PODS again is

POD3: Bama/Auburn/TENN/Vandy
POD4: UGA/Florida/UK/SCAR.

Unless you have permanent pod cross-overs, the UGA/Auburn game is not played and for the Charter Members and SEC ole guard, that is the oldest rival game in the South. There is also zero chance that is happening.



Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21778 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:55 am to
You cannot have divisions anymore in that scenario with 16 teams - it's more than 10 years to cycle through the other division. You will see a 9 game schedule with things broken down geographically. To keep the rivalries and games that matter it will be along these lines. Such a system will also allow a quicker rotation among teams that are outside the pods.

OU, Texas, A&M, Arkansas
LSU, Miss Schools, ?
Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee, ? (Vanderbilt)
FLA, UGA, , ?
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4011 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:01 am to
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If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
You cannot have divisions anymore in that scenario with 16 teams - it's more than 10 years to cycle through the other division. You will see a 9 game schedule with things broken down geographically. To keep the rivalries and games that matter it will be along these lines. Such a system will also allow a quicker rotation among teams that are outside the pods.

OU, Texas, A&M, Arkansas
LSU, Miss Schools, ?
Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee, ? (Vanderbilt)
FLA, UGA, , ?


Well yes you can, you play 7 Division and 2 rotate, equal 9, you can play 7 annuals (Division) and 2 on a rotation basis and rotate them each year, so that way you cycle through in 4 years.

Alternatively, what if the SEC goes to two open dates, has 11 League Games and 1 OOC.

So 7 Division and 4 from the East for 2 years then 4 more for 2 years.

Now that is what Coachcrisp suggests and 7-4 schedule, 1 OOC. Now that could be untrue, but if it is, then there must be some serious $$$$$$ from ESPN to have all this inventory of Games.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:48 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 7/24/21 at 12:08 pm to
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Now that is what Coachcrisp suggests and 7-4 schedule, 1 OOC. Now that could be untrue, but if it is, then there must be some serious $$$$$$ from ESPN to have all this inventory of Games.
Can you even imagine a more interesting and exciting college football season?...Hell NO!
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