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Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:10 am to
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So he parked after dropping Miles off. Walked home. Then walked back with the gun and placed it in his car for Miles to retrieve?


The shooting didn't happen at the bar where he dropped Miles off.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:10 am to
quote:

So he parked after dropping Miles off. Walked home. Then walked back with the gun and placed it in his car for Miles to retrieve?


How in the world did you get that from my question?
Posted by BSherrill
Member since Nov 2015
1806 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:10 am to
quote:

he allowed a teammate to collect that teammate's own gun out of his back seat. It's all in the wording.


No it’s about what happened. At 1:40am, he brought miles his gun. Miles texted him his need/intent for the gun. Miller then parked his vehicle in such a way that it blocked the victims car in (intentionally or unintentionally).

The AD, HC and trashcaloosa PD all knew about it (they said they knew everything) and nothing happened to Miller. I would imagine after this gets out that there will be comments of “new information” from the PD/DA and some type of charges will be filed. If I was the victim, I would go after the PD and the university.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:12 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:11 am to
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No, it cannot. That's stupid.


Yes it can.

quote:

Laying out the facts that were ultimately laid out in testimony is not defamatory in any way.


This assumes he would have known what all would be laid out in testimony.
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
720 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:12 am to
I bet you hope so
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50410 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:12 am to
quote:

No it’s about what happened. At 1:40am, he brought miles his gun. Miles texted him his need/intent for the gun.


Nothing wrong with this, except he actually didn't text him his intent in any way. Just said he felt threatened.

quote:

Miller then parked his vehicle in such a way that it blocked the victims car in (intentionally or unintentionally).


The intentionally or unintentionally part of this is key. Do we have any proof at all that Miller even knew who owned the Jeep? Clearly not.

ETA: He wasn't at the bar with them, so he wouldn't even have recognized the three people in the Jeep.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:15 am
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
720 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Let's not try and act like you care about the safety of kids at school. You simply wrote about this because it was a negative story about Alabama. You are making a mockery of a woman who lost her life because you hate Alabama, point blank period


Pretty much this right here. UA athletics has ruined OP's life so he is jumping at the opportunity.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:15 am to
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Yes it can.


Facts cannot be defamatory.

"Miles had left the gun in Miller's back seat. Miles texted Miller and asked for the gun. Miller drove to where Miles was and allowed Miles to retrieve the gun. The shooting began moments later, and Miller's car was struck twice."

Please highlight the defamation in that paragraph.

quote:

This assumes he would have known what all would be laid out in testimony.


Alabama has an excellent law school. Surely someone on that campus would have been able to tell them how preliminary hearings work.

Look, I'm with you on the bulk of this story. But defending the admin's non-action only makes you look as dumb as those you're defending.
Posted by UT Beer Man
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2023
283 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:21 am to
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You simply wrote about this because it was a negative story about Alabama.



I wish the two of you applied as much scrutiny to the intent of a person that brought a firearm to the scene of a drunken altercation as you do to my comment.

I have an 18 year old daughter that is heading off to college soon. If you don't think my concerns for her safety are sincere, I don't really know what to tell you other than you are wrong.

Perhaps you aren't parents, I don't know.
Posted by BSherrill
Member since Nov 2015
1806 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:22 am to
quote:

imjustafatkid


Ya I get all of that and he probably will not be convicted of anything criminally but when he gets the nba money (if it happens now) I can guarantee you he will settle with the family for being involved in the wrongful death.

The biggest issue for me is the handling of it by the AD, and HC. I don’t know how you can have the information and not suspend him. Much less act like nothing wrong happened. If it was a regular student they would’ve have probably been kicked out of school.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79188 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:23 am to
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Accessory to Murder at the very least. He willing provided a gun to a drunk man that used it to kill someone. If he never delivers that gun, that 5 year old child still has a mother



To who? The press/fans for a few weeks?

Listen I'd love to see Alabama's program take some hits, but cover up implies something was covered up to someone/thing of importance.

If the AD/coach knew all along and knew about the investigation and knew they weren't going to charge Miller because he was deemed a mere witness - how is it a cover up?
Posted by AUWDE
Member since Oct 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:28 am to
It’s also a violation of Bama’s student code of conduct to possess or transport a weapon on campus…..both of which Miller did.

Any other student at Bama would have been suspended for doing the same thing.

LINK
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:32 am to
quote:

The shooting didn't happen at the bar where he dropped Miles off.


And?
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16167 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:18 am to
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Yes it is for you and your buddies defending capitol murder. Congrats on the regular season W's though, superfan


Who did Miller murder and where is your evidence? Clearly you know more than the DA and police. Please feel free to bring forth your compelling evidence.
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:40 am to
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Slandering a person is against the law.

It’s not slandering if what I said is facts.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79188 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:23 am to
quote:

both of which Miller did.


If so then I think that's a reasonable point
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2843 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:31 am to
Was he on campus? NO proof of that
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