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re: If Texas A&M and Mizzou stay in the Big XII, are they national champions in 2012 and 2013?

Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Hook Em Horns
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:24 am to
All kidding aside that a&m team in 2012 was legit. Especially at the end of the year. The defense was nasty and we all know about John football. I loved the sec when he was coming into it and mostly LSU fans was all like but he’s too small, the sec will break him. Lmao.
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:38 am to
does this become an equal share conference too?
Posted by McMillan
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:49 am to
That Auburn game is in a long line of Ones That Got Away.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:56 am to
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does this become an equal share conference too?


Sure or I guess just however the Big XII functions now. So third tier rights are not shared at least.

Do you even really care? I got two degrees from Alabama, and I honestly couldn’t care less how much money the athletics department makes. They’ll still ask for donations.

Every school just immediately spends it on some usually unnecessary improvement.
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 11:58 am to
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Sure or I guess just however the Big XII functions now.


its pretty much texas takes what it wants, and leaves the rest for the conference to fight over. This is why we left, so it would have to change to even give it a thought.

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Do you even really care? I got two degrees from Alabama, and I honestly couldn’t care less how much money the athletics department makes. They’ll still ask for donations.



Yes
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 12:26 pm to
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its pretty much texas takes what it wants, and leaves the rest for the conference to fight over.


This is greatly exaggerated. Texas keeps its 3rd tier rights. The tier 1 and 2 rights are shared amongst the conference. The conference distributed $36.5 million with a gap of only $2.5M between the top team and bottom team.

So the team that gets the least in Big XII is still above the PAC12 and ACC average. The idea that Texas takes everything is not true.

Mizzou would also be able to sell their own tier 3 rights like Texas.

If you add in that ticket sales and donations could go up because Mizzou would be making conference titles regularly. I don’t think they’d be in much worse shape.

Mizzou in 2011 recorded 64M revenue and 64M expenses. In 2017 they recorded 97M revenue and 102M expenses and ticket revenue was the lowest it’s been since 2007.

Are y’all really better off?
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 2:40 pm to
2013 Mizzou was damn good. 3 point loss in double OT to a Gamecock team that finished 11-2 and an SEC championship loss to national runner-up Auburn.
Posted by boot
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 2:47 pm to
Hell no
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 3:53 pm to
Mizzou has not sniffed a conference championship in half a century.. A&M in 20 years.

And you think they were winning back to in '12 and '13?
Posted by MizzouTrue
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 4:42 pm to
No.

Mizzou probably wouldn’t beat 2013 FSU
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 5:04 pm to
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We don’t get in over an undefeated Bama or ND even assuming we run the table in the Big 12.



This. I always lol when people try to troll A&M over the possibility of a missed championship. There’s zero chance A&M would’ve been in over notre Dame, especially coming out of a shitty conference.
Posted by Kidcube1
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 5:14 pm to
I thought they would if done a 2 for 1 deal

Send Missouri and Texas AM to sec for Arkansas

Posted by KCM0Tiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 5:48 pm to
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That Auburn game is in a long line of Ones That Got Away.



Seriously...the Oklahoma loss in 2007 doesn't bother me as much. They beat us twice that year and were simply better than us. The 2013 team was much more complete, and we were essentially tied with Auburn going into the 4th quarter. I'm not convinced Auburn was really better than us, but our defensive scheme was simply one of the worst ever assembled that I've seen. I can still see Auburn rushing for 15 YPC every down.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 6:49 pm to
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I always lol when people try to troll A&M over the possibility of a championship


I do, too.
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 6:52 pm to
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I don’t think so. Our team grew throughout the season.

That said I think at the end of 2012 we would have beaten any team in the country by a lot. Johnny Football was rolling and our D was solid.

Y’all beat everyone in the Big 12 that year.

Y’all would have smoked Notre Dame and obviously y’all could have beat Bama.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 7:41 pm to
Between LSU 2012 and LSU 2013, A&M scored at least 40 points in every game.

The problem was that in three of those games, they gave up at least 40, losing two of those 3 games.
Posted by Caughtthat4ironflush
Texarkana, Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 8:13 pm to
Aggy will never play in the SEC Championship game. Ever. Just as Ole Miss has never played in the SEC Championship game in football, ever. You guys aren't nearly as familiar as Aggy as we Arkansas fans. They are without a doubt the biggest chokers, just name the sport, they choke. Dimwit Fisher, the 75 million dollar man is going to improve Aggy but they will never win an SEC West title in football. I've seen how they perform under pressure too many times and Fisher isn't near enough to change decade upon decade of losing at just the wrong time. Book it !
This post was edited on 6/30/19 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 8:19 pm to
2013 Missouri could not beat 2013 Florida State. That season, Mizzou gave up 23.1 points per game (including 59 to Auburn) and Florida State scored 51.6. Florida State was just too dominant on offense.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 8:20 pm to
Alters melting. What will the world come to?
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/30/19 at 9:28 pm to
fricking Steckel.
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