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re: If Colt wasn't hurt Bama wouldn't have won
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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So, looks like proof that you just don't know either way.
New 44-16 gifs incoming...
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:13 pm to StopRobot
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OU and Nebraska were the two toughest defenses McCoy played that season before Bama. He threw for 311 yards with four ints and 1 TD combined in those two games
But he moved the ball like 30 yards on that 1st drive he was clearly not going to be stopped all night!
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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does a Kelly Bryant led Clemson win?
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No
Eggs. Act. Lee.
Texas fans are saying the same thing.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:14 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Texas fans are saying the same thing.
They are saying that Garrett Gilbert wouldn't have led Texas to a win?
Well yea, I agree.
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if Deshaun Watson plays the entire game in 2015, does Clemson win?
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No.
Alabama fans are saying the same thing
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:15 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Eggs. Act. Lee.
Texas fans are saying the same thing.
Again, bad comparison. Watson was way more essential to Clemson's success that McCoy was to Texas'.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They are saying that Garrett Gilbert wouldn't have led Texas to a win?
Well yea, I agree.
Fan 1 - if *star quarterback* gets hurt we win, no doubt.
Fan 2 - if *star quarterback* doesn't get hurt we win, no doubt.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:16 pm to bamawriter
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Again, bad comparison. Watson was way more essential to Clemson's success that McCoy was to Texas'.
It's also not the same argument, as noted above.
Gilbert couldn't beat Alabama =/= McCoy would beat Alabama
LSU can't beat Alabama with Myles Brennan. They also can't beat Alabama with Joe Burrow.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I asked a simple question too........if Deshaun Watson plays the entire game in 2015, does Clemson win?
Colt McCoy < Deshaun Watson....not a great comparison.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:18 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Fan 2 - if *star quarterback* doesn't get hurt we win, no doubt.
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If Watson plays the entire 2015 game does Clemson win?
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WillyTaylor21 - No
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:19 pm to WorkinDawg
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Colt McCoy < Deshaun Watson....not a great comparison.
But that is kind of the point - saying the backup can't win =/= the same as saying the starter would definitely win.
Clemson's backup would not have won in 2015. Their starter also did not win.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:21 pm to bamawriter
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Again, bad comparison. Watson was way more essential to Clemson's success that McCoy was to Texas'.
Disagree.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But that is kind of the point - saying the backup can't win =/= the same as saying the starter would definitely win.
It's a intellectually vacant argument because we are all blessed with the knowledge of what Bryant did against Bama last year. We saw basically nothing of McCoy against Bama, so it's comparing a complete hypothetical to actual history.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:23 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Disagree.
Texas won multiple games in 2009 in spite of McCoy's lousy play. How many times could that be said of Watson's time at Clemson?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:23 pm to bamawriter
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It's a intellectually vacant argument because we are all blessed with the knowledge of what Bryant did against Bama last year. We saw basically nothing of McCoy against Bama, so it's comparing a complete hypothetical to actual history.
To be fair, this board is based on the concept of intellectual vacancy.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:23 pm to Korin
Didn't he break his arm?
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:24 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:24 pm to weremoose
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Didn't he break his arm?
No. He supposedly had a shoulder stinger.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:The point is Alabama fans agree - without their star player, Clemson would not win.
But that is kind of the point - saying the backup can't win =/= the same as saying the starter would definitely win.
Texas fans are saying - with their star player, Alabama would not win.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:29 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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The point is Alabama fans agree - without their star player, Clemson would not win.
Texas fans are saying - with their star player, Alabama would not win.
You didn't ask that question. You asked if Clemson would have won in 2016 without Deshaun Watson. You got a specific answer based on a specific question. Not all "star players" are created equal.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:30 pm to Texas Aggies fan
I’m an OU fan and even I will admit that colt would have won those bastards that game.
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