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re: If Colt wasn't hurt Bama wouldn't have won

Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:44 pm to
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So you are saying they didn't backdoor their way into the Championship ?


Correct. The Big XII held the door open for them after slamming it in Nebraska's face.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:45 pm to
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All plays under conference rules are reviewable for egregious clock-keeping errors, even the "last" one.


Super.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:47 pm to
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The fact that a Freshman came in off the bench and had the ball in his hands late in the fourth quarter to take the lead, also says a lot.


It says a lot about how complacent Alabama's offense got in the second half. Gilbert didn't light it up by any stretch of the imagination. He was 15-40 for 186 yards and threw four interceptions.

This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:47 pm to
So did the ball land out of bounds with one second on the clock, or not?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Correct. The Big XII held the door open for them after slamming it in Nebraska's face.








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"Nebraska lost another heartbreaker to Texas Saturday. You saw it. Felt it. What you didn’t feel were the post-game aftershocks reverberating through the concrete tunnels of Cowboys Stadium. It hit hardest the Pelinis, who nearly orchestrated a monumental upset. The reason why they didn’t, according to Bo’s and Carl’s immediate reactions, was the officials’ decision to add one second to the game clock after Colt McCoy’s last throw out of bounds. Originally, the clock expired, sending a flood of Nebraska players onto the field. But a review changed that call, led to Texas’ game-winning kick and sent the Pelinis into madness. According to Dan Beebe, Big 12 commissioner, officials did the right thing. According to Walt Anderson, officials did the right thing. Where was the clock when the ball hit something out of bounds? “There was a second left,” Anderson said. But nothing or nobody could convince Bo Pelini. “I want an explanation!” Pelini yelled outside his locker room. Standing in that tunnel quietly watching him: Harvey Perlman, Paul Meyers, Eric Crouch. “Get Coach Osborne down here!” Pelini said. “Can you go get Coach Osborne?” Minutes later, Athletic Director Tom Osborne walked slowly toward the locker room in a black trench coat. He entered the double doors to meet Pelini. From outside the doors, one word could be heard loudest: “Cheaters!” Then Osborne strode back to the field, where Texas was wrapping up its trophy presentation. En route to midfield, Osborne said to a World-Herald reporter: “Where is Dan Beebe?” Beebe was standing at the 40-yard line talking to Assistant Commissioner Ed Stewart, a former Nebraska All-America linebacker. As Osborne reached Beebe, the commissioner extended his hand. But Osborne didn’t shake it. Osborne pointed at Beebe and said, “Would you go see Bo? Right now?” By then, Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Perlman had come on to the field. Perlman and Osborne walked with Beebe off the field and down a stadium tunnel. The three exchanged no words on the walk. Down the tunnel, Osborne walked three steps in front of Beebe and Perlman walked to Beebe’s right. As Osborne walked, The World-Herald asked if Nebraska would appeal any part of the game. His answer: “I don’t know.’’ Beebe went immediately to the post-game press conference and waited for Pelini. Pelini lightened up a bit during the question-and-answer session. He even cracked a joke. But when he left, Osborne called to him. “Bo! Bo! Dan Beebe’s here.” Beebe suggested he and Pelini talk in private. They walked into a quiet area near some shiny SUVs, 100 feet from anyone else. Yet Bo and the occasional curse word could still be heard. Osborne watched the meeting with Pelini’s brother, Vince. Time ran out, Vince told him. They took it from us, Vince said. Osborne, whose facial expression never changed, calmed him: “I’ve been on both ends.”


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Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors met to discuss the future of the Big Ten at its winter meetings in Park Ridge, Illinois. This was a league without a conference title game, without the slightest bit of impact on college football's final weekend of regular-season play.

Fewer than six months later, Nebraska would have Delany on its campus, announcing the Big Ten had invited the Bugeaters, the Huskers, the Big Red... to the Big Ten.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:49 pm to
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He was 15-40 for 186 yards and threw four interceptions.


imagine what a heisman caliber QB could've done

I'm not saying texas would have won automatically, but it's crazy to think him being out didn't DRASTICALLY change the game.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:49 pm to
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Gilbert didn't light it up by any stretch of the imagination. He was 15-40 for 186 yards and threw four interceptions.

You're just proving the point that TEXAS would've won with Colt playing all game.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:49 pm to
His fault for quitting.
Posted by NocaHomas Teepee
Nor Al
Member since May 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:50 pm to
Aggie stalking/lurking on UT-Austin? Check.
Aggie dick riding/white knighting for Alabama? Check.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:50 pm to
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So did the ball land out of bounds with one second on the clock, or not?


It did not.

But, feel free to argue all you want. The hypothetical and historical scenarios both result in Texas failing to win the national championship.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:50 pm to
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You're just proving the point that TEXAS would've won with Colt playing all game.



Or Alabama's offensive goal in the 2nd half would have been scoring points and not running out the clock by running draws on 3rd and 7.
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:51 pm to
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imagine what a heisman caliber QB could've done



Imagine how different both teams play if Colt is in the game. He was knocked out literally two minutes into the contest. And it's not like he was hit with some season-ending injury. He could have gone back in had he wanted to. He chose to sit and wait for the draft when the game was on the line.

McElroy, for all the good he did in that game, played through his injury.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1449 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:52 pm to
All I deduce from this is Texans are pussies and don't know how to get up, knock the dust off, and get back to work.

Texas
09 - 13-1...muh Colt
10 - 5-7
11 - 8-5
12 - 9-4
13 - 8-5
14 - 6-7
15 - 5-7
16 - 5-7
17 - 7-6
18 - 10-4...yeah, we're finally able to pick our chin up and wipe the feels from our chaps.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:52 pm to
It's obviously a what if - like about 1,000 other games in sports history - but that idea that it is open and shut that Texas wins is silliness.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:52 pm to
A bad call on the field is different than the eye test criteria found at some resort in TX. As bad as the call was, they still won it on the field.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:53 pm to
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A bad call on the field is different than the eye test criteria found at some resort in TX. As bad as the call was, they still won it on the field.





I mean, sure, why not
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:53 pm to
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You're just proving the point that TEXAS would've won with Colt playing all game.



Hardly.

Alabama would have played the game differently had Colt not been injured. McElroy threw 11 passes total for the game. All we did was hand the ball off to Richardson and Ingram to bleed the clock.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:54 pm to
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I mean, sure, why not


Then you agree?
This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:55 pm to
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First, Colt wasn't hurt. He QUIT. Period.


Lol at this great take.

Yes, the guy that started every game for four years to eventually get to that moment, and was the winningest college football qb at the time, quit because he got hit hard. I'm embarrassed for you by this take lol
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:55 pm to
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10 - 5-7
11 - 8-5
12 - 9-4
13 - 8-5
14 - 6-7
15 - 5-7
16 - 5-7
17 - 7-6

This looks eerily similar.
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