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re: If Baylor keeps improving LSU should make it right and try to bring Aranda back
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't think Alleva ever planned on hiring the interim as the permanent HC.
For sure. And it seems laughable to think that O was anything more than a fallback option for Alleva. Alleva certainly wasn't in the "One of Us!" crowd. He's a Yankee through and through.
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Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:15 pm to CatfishJohn
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Aranda isn't proven enough for Woodward I don't think. And he's not a bad recruiter, but he's definitely not a great one. His personality is perfect for DC.
I wouldn't melt if we hired him if he puts together a 9-10 win season at Baylor or something like that, but I wouldn't have him in my top 5 candidates.
And make no mistake, this will be Ed Orgeron's last year at LSU.
How strong of a recruiter do you have to be at LSU? Looks to me like LSU has a development and coaching problem especially on the OL and DL and LB spots more so than a recruiting problem.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:17 pm to Mulkey Man
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The question is whether he can recruit at a high level.
That's what Corey is for as the RC and the other coordinator and position coaches. If you prove you can win, develop players and put kids in the NFL recruiting takes care of itself. All you have left to do is seal the deal.
The one caveat is the effect of NIL on recruiting.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:21 pm to Shaft Williams
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How strong of a recruiter do you have to be at LSU? Looks to me like LSU has a development and coaching problem especially on the OL and DL and LB spots more so than a recruiting problem.
You can't win a national title without both. Need to bring in top-10 recruiting classes and develop players.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:22 pm to Shaft Williams
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How strong of a recruiter do you have to be at LSU?
When Nick Saban is constantly trying to raid your state and Jimbo and Sark are right behind him, you have to be pretty damn good.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:29 pm to Shaft Williams
If I was the LSU AD..
I know who I would hire and it really isn’t close. This coach would absolutely crush it at LSU. He is a great recruiter, a great coach and has direct ties to East Texas.
LSU pretty much recruits itself in Louisiana, but if you can cherry pick a couple of good Texas recruits on top of that each year.. that’s a great recipe if the coach is also good at coaching on the field..
Thankfully, they won’t consider him as he doesn’t have enough coaching credibility yet.
His name is Jeff Traylor at UTSA. Whoever gets this guy is getting a good one.
I know who I would hire and it really isn’t close. This coach would absolutely crush it at LSU. He is a great recruiter, a great coach and has direct ties to East Texas.
LSU pretty much recruits itself in Louisiana, but if you can cherry pick a couple of good Texas recruits on top of that each year.. that’s a great recipe if the coach is also good at coaching on the field..
Thankfully, they won’t consider him as he doesn’t have enough coaching credibility yet.
His name is Jeff Traylor at UTSA. Whoever gets this guy is getting a good one.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
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O had already been at LSU for a full season prior and had served as recruiting coordinator.
He also had head coaching experience and had a good stint as the interim head coach at USC.
Aranda had no head coaching experience and was only 4 games into his first season at LSU.
This is all true.
Plus, if Aranda becomes head coach instead of Orgeron, do you think it's more likely that Orgeron remains as the D-line coach, or that he fricks off and helps Alabama with their South Louisiana crootin?
That was a legitimate fear then, and it still should be.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:44 pm to Shaft Williams
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How strong of a recruiter do you have to be at LSU?
We've been getting 5 stars lately that we may have lost to Alabama when Les was the coach.
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Looks to me like LSU has a development and coaching problem especially on the OL and DL and LB spots more so than a recruiting problem.
I don't have an exact count, but I'd bet my next paycheck that LSU has hired more coaches than any other program in the country over the last three years, head coaches remaining constant. Where we've had consistency, we're doing better.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:50 pm to BigBro
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LSU pretty much recruits itself in Louisiana, but if you can cherry pick a couple of good Texas recruits on top of that each year..
That's just not true anymore.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:52 pm to CatfishJohn
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Aranda isn't proven enough for Woodward I don't think. And he's not a bad recruiter, but he's definitely not a great one. His personality is perfect for DC
This has always been my stance on Aranda.
Granted, I don't personally know him but he seems like a Joe Brady type, kind of laid back and he just wants to coach ball.
I don't think that's sustainable long term as a head coach at a major program.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:57 pm to CatfishJohn
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When Nick Saban is constantly trying to raid your state and Jimbo and Sark are right behind him, you have to be pretty damn good.
This is the correct answer.
Recruiting and player development have to be job number one.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 2:59 pm to Shaft Williams
You cannot win national titles without elite recruits and schools don’t recruit themselves anymore. You need a powerhouse recruiter at head coach to win big. Alabama, with all its national championships, couldn’t recruit enough elite talent under Shula. Saban comes and turns it around in epic fashion and you see the results.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:11 pm to wadewilson
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do you think it's more likely that Orgeron remains as the D-line coach, or that he fricks off and helps Alabama with their South Louisiana crootin?
no chance. He wouldn’t even get call back.Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:23 pm to RumHam
You think Saban wouldn't hire someone that could help him recruit Louisiana?
Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:44 pm to wadewilson
Aranda eh? But got O instead... What a shame. Oh wait....O brought home the Natty!!!
Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:45 pm to wadewilson
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You think Saban wouldn't hire someone that could help him recruit Louisiana?
He would but Orgeron wouldn't be that guy. No way Orgeron would pass one of Saban's background checks.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:53 pm to 5Wide
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He would but Orgeron wouldn't be that guy. No way Orgeron would pass one of Saban's background checks.
Saban tried to hire O as the DL coach prior to the 2008 season.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 3:58 pm to Shaft Williams
Wait. Is O getting hired away somewhere and I missed it?
This post was edited on 10/1/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:01 pm to wadewilson
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You think Saban wouldn't hire someone that could help him recruit Louisiana?
He'll go work for Lane again.
Posted on 10/1/21 at 4:14 pm to Imber
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He'll go work for Lane again.
I could definitely see that happening.
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