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re: If Auburn finishes 7-6, would that make them mediocre?
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:29 am to higgs_boson
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:29 am to higgs_boson
I agree, but I would settle for a break-out running back as well.
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:31 am to Mister Tee
SOS is a relative term and not really a good measure of how teams perform. For example, Team A plays seven games against opponents ranked in the 45-65 range for SOS and the rest of their games against teams in the 100-110 range. Team B only plays two teams in the 45-65 range and then ten games against teams in the 80-100 range. Without doing the math to calculate the stronger SOS of the two teams, which would have the higher SOS? Both would be fairly close but Team A played much tougher opponents while Team B only played two opponents that would be considered tough.
That's one fallacy of SOS. Another is pretty obvious. If you are ranked high and play a team ranked lower than you in SOS, then they receive way more benefit of playing you than you do them. You can't beat yourself.
Thirdly, for example, if Team B plays and beats a MAC team that ends up at 9-3 and Team A plays and beats an 8-4 PAC 12 team, Team B gets more credit for their SOS, even though most years an 8-4 Pac 12 team will be much better than a 9-3 MAC team.
That's one fallacy of SOS. Another is pretty obvious. If you are ranked high and play a team ranked lower than you in SOS, then they receive way more benefit of playing you than you do them. You can't beat yourself.
Thirdly, for example, if Team B plays and beats a MAC team that ends up at 9-3 and Team A plays and beats an 8-4 PAC 12 team, Team B gets more credit for their SOS, even though most years an 8-4 Pac 12 team will be much better than a 9-3 MAC team.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:31 am to Mister Tee
going by some of the posts on this board....it is impossible for Auburn to ever be considered mediocre because Cam once played for them.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:33 am to higgs_boson
This shite is embarressing.
Please quit Odelling
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OP
Please quit Odelling
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:34 am to MoreLandshark
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Jacksonville State
Who is, in fact, in a championship game.
And they own the record book entry for first touchdown highlight on the new Jumbotron at Jerrrrden-Hare.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:44 am to jangalang
I don't see how it is embarrassing at all looking back at your team's performance for the year and making note of what did, or did not, go well. That is all I am doing here. With a decent, level-headed QB, we will be much improved. How much improved remains to be seen. We ranked #107 nationally in passing this year (11th in the SEC) and still found a way to be in games. When you are that inept in getting the ball to move...things stall. As a result Auburn stalled this year. We weren't absolutely horrible, though.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:45 am to Mister Tee
With your OOC schedule? No.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:45 am to Mister Tee
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As a result Auburn stalled this year. We weren't absolutely horrible, though.
Do you really think Gus can get the ship righted? Especially on the defensive side of the ball?
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:53 am to 14&Counting
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Do you really think Gus can get the ship righted? Especially on the defensive side of the ball?
Although not directed to me, I will take a stab.
Gus needs to fix the offense. Marginal increases in the defense will be great, but his teams are always going to live and die with offensive production. This year was strange with the qb situation and the rb situation.
Next year is tough starting with Clemson, but it will probably give a pretty good indication of whether he can right the ship.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:54 am to Mister Tee
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hat is all I am doing here. With a decent, level-headed QB, we will be much improved. How much improved remains to be seen.
Unless Auburn's defense goes back to 2014 level without Muschamp.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:56 am to higgs_boson
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Next year is tough starting with Clemson, but it will probably give a pretty good indication of whether he can right the ship.
How is recruiting going for AU? Can't say I have really followed them as much as the past...not particularly up to speed on Bama for that matter....it seems to me Gus really whiffed on his evaluations this year (JJ, Duke) and he is going to need some real help on the defensive side.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:57 am to 14&Counting
Yes. Stranger things have happened. Gus has had success everywhere he has gone. If he can open the offense up the way he has done in the past (throughout his career), then playing defense shouldn't be such an issue. Not exactly my favorite style of football, but Auburn knew that when we hired Malzahn. QB play has been the dagger so far. But if you live by the sword, you die by it as evidenced thus far with the Tigers. Either way, I don't expect Auburn to have a very good defense any time soon.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:59 am to 14&Counting
I think they are on the right track with the early enrolls.
On offense, getting the DT Juco qb and Davis as WR will probably help.
Defense is still scary thin, but the new guys should help.
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On offense, getting the DT Juco qb and Davis as WR will probably help.
Defense is still scary thin, but the new guys should help.
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Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:00 am to Mister Tee
It would make them a pretty damn good Auburn team.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:02 am to higgs_boson
We'll end up with a Top-10 class. We are currently in the Top 8-11 range with 7 more slots to fill.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:04 am to Mister Tee
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:07 am to Mister Tee
RA'd for alter
Posted on 12/21/15 at 10:54 am to Mister Tee
quote:I keep seeing this, but it's not correct.
We lost 4 big games this year by less than 8 points each.
AU lost 6 games:
LSU by 24 pts
MSU by 8 pts
ARK by 8 pts
OM by 8 pts
UGA by 7 pts
UA by 16 pts
AU only lost one game (UGA) by less than 8 pts. Your offense AND defense finished the regular season ranked in the 90's. You finished dead last in the division. Mediocre?
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:24 am to RT1941
8 points or less. That is what was implied. My bad. Still, that is not that bad for a team "ranked in the 90's" and finishing dead last in the division as you have stated.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 11:25 am to Mister Tee
I think Auburn is a decent QB away from being a good team.
As the OP stated, with the exception of the LSU game, Auburn was at least competitive in every other game. Lots of close losses.
The defense actually saw very little change from 2014 to 2015 in terms of yards and scoring.
However, considering this year's defense had an offense rated #95... and last year's defense had an offense that was #17 to complement them, I'd say Auburn's defense was probably "better" this season despite it not showing in the statistics. Had Auburn had a Top 20 offense this season like last season, my guess is the improvement on defense would have been more evident in the rankings.
Unless some folks declare early for the draft unexpectedly, it appears Auburn will have a good bit of their defense back next season. If they can continue to improve despite a change at DC, I think Auburn could have an "average" defense which would be a great improvement from the past 3-4 years.
So it appears next season will boil down to the QB position. If Auburn's offense can improve from #95 up to even Top 40, I think Auburn could see improvement up to an 8-4 or 9-3 type of season.
In order for Auburn to compete for championships with the coaching staff though, they need a Top 20 offense.
As the OP stated, with the exception of the LSU game, Auburn was at least competitive in every other game. Lots of close losses.
The defense actually saw very little change from 2014 to 2015 in terms of yards and scoring.
However, considering this year's defense had an offense rated #95... and last year's defense had an offense that was #17 to complement them, I'd say Auburn's defense was probably "better" this season despite it not showing in the statistics. Had Auburn had a Top 20 offense this season like last season, my guess is the improvement on defense would have been more evident in the rankings.
Unless some folks declare early for the draft unexpectedly, it appears Auburn will have a good bit of their defense back next season. If they can continue to improve despite a change at DC, I think Auburn could have an "average" defense which would be a great improvement from the past 3-4 years.
So it appears next season will boil down to the QB position. If Auburn's offense can improve from #95 up to even Top 40, I think Auburn could see improvement up to an 8-4 or 9-3 type of season.
In order for Auburn to compete for championships with the coaching staff though, they need a Top 20 offense.
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