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re: Idea to dissuade players from “opting out” (quitting)

Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:29 am to
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
5155 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:29 am to
quote:

legally binding contracts

Good luck collecting on those judgments. Though I guess we could just make them sign over their Dodge Chargers as collateral.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1904 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:30 am to
Any other year ok. During 2020 and Covid I don’t really agree.

And I’m pretty skeptical of the severity of this whole
Covid shite in general but still.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15590 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:35 am to
This might speed up an expanded playoff at least. Bowl games used to be fun but are probably toast now. CFB def losing some luster ala college bball.
Posted by Judah Mann
Houston Area
Member since Aug 2016
2033 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:36 am to
Did I see players who had quit their teammates standing on the sidelines in street clothes? If so, those coaches should be fired. No way I let a quitter act as if he's still a member in good standing.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:39 am to
They ruin everything they touch and it is already doucmented for you.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:40 am to
quote:

This might speed up an expanded playoff at least.


CFB already has an expanded playoff...it’s called the regular season.

How many teams need to be in the playoff for you to realize Bama & Clemson are substantially better than everyone else?
Posted by That LSU Guy
The beach
Member since Jul 2008
11407 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:41 am to
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2800 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:43 am to
The bowls should be allowed to incentivize the top players to play in their games. They already pass out a ton of gifts, cutting some checks to the most marketable players on each team would make sense.

Right now, the economics of not playing is better than that of playing, unless that changes, opt outs will continue.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7215 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:45 am to
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No program would have the balls to be the first to do that because no one would sign with them.

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I have had the same thought before too. But then they would just go to a school who didn’t have that rule. Also they are trying to legalize paying players, so I can’t see them taking away more.

Would be nice if they charged them if they leave early and don’t graduate though.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44831 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:46 am to
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Did I see players who had quit their teammates standing on the sidelines in street clothes? If so, those coaches should be fired. No way I let a quitter act as if he's still a member in good standing


Agreed. If I were coach, quitters would be cleaning out their lockers and would be banned from all athletic facilities on campus.
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
Member since Sep 2009
4483 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:49 am to
On the surface yes, but I can see a lot of first rounders getting a sizeable advance from agents that could easily cover these expenses. Still opt out.
Posted by Laffy Taffy Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
1146 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:51 am to
Yep they would just include the payment in their agent contact
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18379 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:56 am to
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So then you’re telling me that players are the final arbiter in deciding which games are meaningful?

Imagine having that opinion at work...
“No, mr boss. I’m not doing that because I find it meaningless and it could hinder my ability to get a better gig soon.”


The problem is that top college football players are one step away from becoming employed. They simply aren't employed at the college level, and their degree and scholarship is peanuts compared to what they will be paid as a 1st or 2nd round draft pick. Even 3rd and 4th round picks that make an NFL roster will dwarf the value of their college scholarship. The average college football scholarship at a top 25 program is worth ~$2 million over a 4 year period. 4th round picks in the NFL are getting on average $4 million over a 4 year period. Not to mention any sponsorships, endorsements, and other perks of being an NFL player.

College football has nothing to negotiate with.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 7:58 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:56 am to
That’s fine.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13227 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Most of them could give a shite less anyway.

How much less?
Posted by Judah Mann
Houston Area
Member since Aug 2016
2033 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:05 am to
quote:

No program would have the balls to be the first to do that because no one would sign with them.


They would if it was the same across all of college football. You sit out....you pay.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44831 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:08 am to
quote:

College football has nothing to negotiate with.


I disagree. College football fans would show up if all of their teams looked like Ivy League or D3 teams. College football games are about so much more than the game itself.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:09 am to
There’s got to be some sort of penalty.
Posted by Kk74
Mobile
Member since Jun 2017
1186 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:14 am to
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The service academies do it.


The big difference is character and the expectation that player has when signing. They go in with the knowledge of serving their country. That isn’t the same with your typical 4-5 star that is looking for a way to the nfl.
Posted by Kk74
Mobile
Member since Jun 2017
1186 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:17 am to
The only way a college draft would ever be accepted is if the players were being paid-which i don’t have a problem with. I don’t even have a problem with the other benefits- getting a job for a loved one, cars, etc.
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