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re: I don't get the hate for the BCS.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:14 am to CrippleCreek
Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:14 am to CrippleCreek
quote:Further exacerbating the fundamental problem with the BCS
It uses one poll set by preseason standards. It also uses a poll that isn't. Said second poll is a copy and paste job of the first poll.
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:14 am to The Nino
quote:I don't think that is a big of a flaw as you think. Auburn was very much unranked in preseason polls and are now the highest ranked 1 loss team.
My point is that the BCS formula is flawed because it uses a poll that's set by preseason predictions.
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 2:15 am to pivey14
frick that. I live playoffs. Earn it rather than be handed it.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 5:30 am to pivey14
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They were the only undefeated team...
So Hawaii was the only undefeated in 2007
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:34 am to pivey14
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You honestly believe Okie St. was better than LSU? LSU lost to Bama on the road.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:44 am to benhamin5555
quote:playoff does nothing to fix these. The BCS was great.
2011 2012 (Notre Dame shouldn't have been in the title game)
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:51 am to AlxTgr
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The BCS was great
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:55 am to pivey14
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Maybe not, yet they still would have won.
Ladies and Gentleman, we have a hindsight Nostradamus here!
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:57 am to pivey14
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You honestly believe Okie St. was better than LSU? LSU lost to Bama on the road. Okie St. lost to IOWA STATE.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:57 am to pivey14
There will be haters for the new system. Baylor would be hating if there were 4 teams.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:19 am to pivey14
I didn't have a problem with the BCS. It wasn't perfect, but it was better than anything we've ever had. There is no perfect way to determine a champion in college football, that's one reason it is so popular - the debate. The new playoff is a step backwards where we're going to have a few nimrods with heavy bias deciding who gets in.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:19 am to pivey14
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I still don't think y'all should have been in that game. Oklahoma started #2 and went undefeated. SEC was weak that year as well.
Well, the point is that we don't KNOW that the best team won the BCS that year (2004).
Auburn had 4 players go in the top 10 of the draft that year, with plenty of talent left. Utah (led by Urban legend) prison raped everyone they played. Definitely 2004 was a flawed year, IMO.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:40 am to AlxTgr
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2011 2012 (Notre Dame shouldn't have been in the title game)
playoff does nothing to fix these. The BCS was great.
Right, a playoff wouldn't force Bama to beat Ok St to make it to the title game in 2011. It would not have forced ND to beat Oregon in 2012.
It would not fix these issues at all
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:41 am to mboromaroon
2004 AU would have crushed Oklahoma, just like USC did. It was a garbage year.
I don't think it'd happen again, especially to AU, but it does recognize there can be real problems with the system.
I don't think it'd happen again, especially to AU, but it does recognize there can be real problems with the system.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 9:48 am to Schwaaz
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There will be haters for the new system. Baylor would be hating if there were 4 teams.
Which is fine. The playoff still doubles the number of teams with an opportunity to earn a national title on the field. It still will force teams to beat two elite opponents rather than only one. It still will enhance postseason college football.
Take 2011 for example. Is there anyone who wouldn't want to see the winners of LSU/Stanford (or maybe Oregon) and Bama vs Ok St face off for it all?
We get three great matchups rather than only one.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:03 am to pivey14
I wasn't watching football back then, but what about 2003 and 2008 U.S.C.? 2008 Oklahoma got picked over 2008 Texas in the BCS Standings.
Did 2000 Miami deserve a nod over Florida State for the national championship?
Did 2000 Miami deserve a nod over Florida State for the national championship?
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:09 am to benhamin5555
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2011
Are you still denying that 2011 Alabama > 2011 LSU?
You can argue that the rematch shouldn't have happened, but the OP's argument was that the best team each year won the BCS National Championship.
Surely you don't believe that 2011 Oklahoma State was better than 2011 Alabama? Oklahoma State did not have a good defense. A few of those drives that ended in field goal attempts versus LSU on 1/9/12 would have been touchdowns versus Oklahoma State. Stanford gave Oklahoma State fits in the Fiesta Bowl. Stanford wasn't on Alabama's level then.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:11 am to pivey14
Once the playoff expands to 8 teams it will be perfect.
Hopefully the get rid of the committee as well when this happens.
Hopefully the get rid of the committee as well when this happens.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 11:19 am to CBandits82
A 4 team playoff fixes 2004 type drama when you go undefeated in a major conference. If you lose a game, then it is politics. We were a better team than Chocklahoma, but the eye test criteria did not come into play until 2011.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 7:43 pm to Gardevoir
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Are you still denying that 2011 Alabama > 2011 LSU?
You can argue that the rematch shouldn't have happened, but the OP's argument was that the best team each year won the BCS National Championship.
Just because LSU shat the bed in one game doesn't mean Alabama was the better team that season. LSU had a much more impressive season. I'm not gonna say they were definitively better, but it's too close to call IMO.
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