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re: I don’t feel CFB is on a very good path
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 am to JesusQuintana
lets see what next year looks like with people back in the stands. It's easy to think CFB is dead when there is almost zero excitement on gameday. If next year without restrictions people don't show up and players quit then you could make a more accurate assessment of the future of the sport.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:46 am to JesusQuintana
The playoff is all that matters, and only a few can even get there. Either expand the playoffs or do away with them entirely once again. Also, drastic scholarship reductions.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:05 am to ColoradoAg
So basically we don't care if the "best" 4 teams are in the CFP, we just want more teams getting participation trophies?
Expanded playoffs water down the best regular season in sports. Period. No one wants to see 2 loss teams in the playoff... except fans of teams that have 2 losses in a given year.
Expanded playoffs water down the best regular season in sports. Period. No one wants to see 2 loss teams in the playoff... except fans of teams that have 2 losses in a given year.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:19 am to JesusQuintana
I remember 10 years ago when Ohio State publicly shed any shred of integrity they had so that their best players could play against lowly Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. People would call that an “irrelevant” game nowadays but it was a huge game at the time.
We’ve lost something with the advent of the playoff. It’s time to get rid of it. If we do that and somehow manage to get rid of about half of the bowl schedule then we might be able to get back part of what we had.
We’ve lost something with the advent of the playoff. It’s time to get rid of it. If we do that and somehow manage to get rid of about half of the bowl schedule then we might be able to get back part of what we had.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:22 am to Chad4Bama
Does the same team win March Madness every year? Does the same team win the CWS each year? Expanded playoffs means that more teams have a shot. It means that the talent pool doesn't all automatically go to the same schools.
The only leagues that are remotely competitive these days are the SEC and B1G. That isn't great for CFB at all. You also have to drastically reduce scholarships so injuries are more of an equalizer
The entire West coast is already checking out, and the midwest is beginning to as well. Only teams that matter in the BDF are Oklahoma/Texas, and the ACC is just Clemson for now
The only leagues that are remotely competitive these days are the SEC and B1G. That isn't great for CFB at all. You also have to drastically reduce scholarships so injuries are more of an equalizer
The entire West coast is already checking out, and the midwest is beginning to as well. Only teams that matter in the BDF are Oklahoma/Texas, and the ACC is just Clemson for now
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:31 am to ColoradoAg
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This year ND, A&M, Cincinnati, and Coastal all had better arguments than tOSU
What exactly is A&M's better argument other than durr, we played more games against shitty opponents? Florida's defense sucks so don't hang you hat on that one. There's no difference in the resumes other than "but we played a couple more games".
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:35 am to VABuckeye
tOSU didn't play a decent number of games. Period. Every other team mentioned played at LEAST 150% of the games tOSU did. Honestly Coastal Carolina and Cincinnati did all that could be expected of them, and it didn't matter
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:39 am to ColoradoAg
I can live with that being your reason but the playoff committee said from day 1 that the number of games played was not an issue,
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:53 am to JesusQuintana
Most bowl games have been meaningless exhibitions the whole time. The only way to give them meaning is to:
Go back to AP voting After bowl season.
Pick the top 2 or 4 AFTER bowls are played.
College games played after the 1st feel weird anyway.
Why is it some coaches have teams that don’t give a crap and quit if they aren’t in it and some coaches have teams that care even though they are out.
Alabama lost to LSU and Auburn last year. Did they quit? Nope blew up Michigan with backup QB.
Go back to AP voting After bowl season.
Pick the top 2 or 4 AFTER bowls are played.
College games played after the 1st feel weird anyway.
Why is it some coaches have teams that don’t give a crap and quit if they aren’t in it and some coaches have teams that care even though they are out.
Alabama lost to LSU and Auburn last year. Did they quit? Nope blew up Michigan with backup QB.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:54 am to XenScott
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Why is it some coaches have teams that don’t give a crap and quit if they aren’t in it and some coaches have teams that care even though they are out.
Alabama lost to LSU and Auburn last year. Did they quit? Nope blew up Michigan with backup QB.
Culture of winning vs culture of "I don't give a frick about anything but me".
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:59 am to JesusQuintana
The college football playoff will kill the sport. The obsession with pro sports by those in the national media, and their desire to turn college football's bowl system into a pro sports playoff, has permanently altered what the definition of a good season is. Used to be winning your conference or a bowl game was a great accomplishment. Now it's meaningless if you're not in the CFP.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:10 am to JesusQuintana
This is RICH coming from an LSU fan.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:11 am to ChiGator
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frick bowl games, other than gambling they’re pointless.
If the bowl games are pointless, college football itself is pointless.
Sports are played because they are f
fun to play and fun to watch. College and high school sports take it up a notch because of pride in the school.
The quitting is a rejection of the point of having college sports at all.
If these players only care about their careers, they will kill the sport and then it can be rebuilt into what it is supposed to be.
The quitters should be universally criticized by all who care about college sports.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:23 am to JesusQuintana
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What made it special is slowly disappearing with bowl games becoming null, players opting out left and right etc
All that and with there being only a handful of teams even capable of making the playoffs (and the same ones year after year) I think interest is going to drop off substantially
Let’s not fool ourselves. With rare exception national championships since the 60s have been dominated by handful of teams. About a dozen teams have won over 80% of the titles in the past 60 years. The others that won a title are not little programs: Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan.
College football is now a booming business. Coaches scariest are approaching 8 figures. TV, merchandising revenue is enormous. It’s not amateur, “student athletes”. The genie can’t be put back into the bottle.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:30 am to beaverfever
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remember 10 years ago when Ohio State publicly shed any shred of integrity they had so that their best players could play against lowly Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.
LMAO- lowly Arkansas was the best team you’ve had in 100 years at the time. If they were so “lowly” why were they picked to beat OSU?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:30 am to PatchStewart
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This is RICH coming from an LSU fan.
OP is a Mizzou fan
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:34 am to BornCritic
If these players only care about their careers, they will kill the sport and then it can be rebuilt into what it is supposed to be.
Exactly this. If you use the example of CBB, some of the best teams now are with guys who’ve been on the teams for three and four years. That’s a rarity but those are the ones that gain a lot of national attention. Also, basketball is really centered around the coach so if guys stick around for at least two years, the coach has really built up the culture and makes for a more cohesive team component.
Exactly this. If you use the example of CBB, some of the best teams now are with guys who’ve been on the teams for three and four years. That’s a rarity but those are the ones that gain a lot of national attention. Also, basketball is really centered around the coach so if guys stick around for at least two years, the coach has really built up the culture and makes for a more cohesive team component.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:38 am to ColoradoAg
A&M would lose by 30 to OSU. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:49 am to Taurus 357
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A&M would lose by 30 to OSU. Let’s not pretend otherwise.
No. Why don't we do so? If Fields hasn't been that good, how is tOSU going to stretch the field? tOSU running game? A&M is built to stop the run first and foremost
A&M is weaker against the pass, and tOSU isn't very good at that this year. It's all about matchups
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:53 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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College football has peaked and on the downhill
It's society and nothing is going to stop that trend.
You're right. In a decade or so the only people paying any attention to this sport will be gamblers and family members.
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