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re: how will lsu hold up without burrow?

Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:45 pm to
Back...2...Back.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:46 pm to
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I think Lsu takes a noticeable but not significant step back. Not cfp caliber next season but easily in range of a top 10 finish. it will be a good test for Ed O.


As far as talent goes, not only will redshirt junior Myles Brennan be the starter next season, but to go along with Myles Brennan's talent will be the best wide receiver room, the best running back room, and the best tight end room in the SEC.

Also, the offensive line will also be very stellar again in 2020 as well.

Then Dave Aranda will have a wide array of elite defensive talent on hand to put together another championship-winning defense.

I fully expect LSU to be good enough to beat Alabama in 2020, win the SEC West and beat either Florida or UGA in the SEC Championship title game.
Posted by MexicanTiger97
Member since May 2018
998 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:49 pm to
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It is doubtful that Myles Bremmam will be able to support burrow's legacy. But how much other talent is lsu losing? Burrow isnt the whole team, unlike Scam with Allbums back in 2010.

I think Lsu takes a noticeable but not significant step back. Not cfp caliber next season but easily in range of a top 10 finish. it will be a good test for Ed O.

Can O outsmart Saban again? We will see... many Bama fans, including myself, are suspicious that with out a talent advantage, Saban cannot win a strategic matchup. Saw that with Awbums and lsu this season.



Other than his inexperience, my biggest concern with Brennan is that he likely won't get to spend as much time studying film as Burrow. Burrow only took like two online classes this past semester while completing his Masters degree. The advantage that Burrow had this past season was that he knew what the defenses were doing and where he had to go with the ball before the ball was snapped.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:50 pm to
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because Brennan’s arm is significantly better than Burrow’s.


It's only significantly better if it is more accurate, which I highly doubt. Not to mention that athletic ability and ability to make quick and accurate decisions under intense pressure also comes into play.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:53 pm to
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Definitely more zip. Not sure you can be more accurate than Burrow.


More zip and then his passes will be almost impossible for the receivers to catch.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:57 pm to
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It’s stronger.


It doesn't matter how strong Brennan's arm is if it isn't accurate and if he can't throw with touch when necessary, then it doesn't matter. Arm talent is the criterion. Arm strength when it comes to QBs is a useless metric.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:00 pm to
We lose Jefferson and Clyde.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:04 pm to
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Brennan probably has a stronger arm than Burrow


How do you know that? Is Joe Burrow's arm not strong enough or something?

It's not about arm strength, it's about arm talent. True, Brennan has arm talent, but he is not in the same league as Joe Burrow.

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The thing with Brennan is that he throws every ball on a rope.


I hope he learns to throw with touch like Joe Burrow. Cause if he throws all passes on a rope, there are going to inevitably be a lot of dropped passes.



Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:11 pm to
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Depends on if you believe Burrow is a system QB or not.


He isn't. Dude is deadly accurate and those guys don't just grow on trees.

LSU replacing Burrow will be the tallest task for any team replacing anybody in the SEC, at any position............maybe the nation.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10713 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:16 pm to
Slight drop to 11-1 with only a loss to Florida.

Still SEC champs and beating Bama. frick Bama.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 11:18 pm
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:18 pm to
Brennan can fricking sling it man. He's going to be good. Just watch.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21322 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:19 pm to
OP tonight...

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9345 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:27 pm to
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It doesn't matter how strong Brennan's arm is if it isn't accurate and if he can't throw with touch when necessary, then it doesn't matter.

To me there are two different ways to define “accuracy” here. There’s the physical placement of the ball, and then there’s the likelihood that the ball is caught. If we are talking about putting the ball in a tight window, I think Brennan is every bit as accurate as Burrow. If you made the two of them compete throwing at a tire swing, I could even see Brennan winning.

Real-world completion percentage is impacted by a lot more than just ball placement though. I agree that decision making, timing, and especially touch are question marks for Brennan. But he seems to put the ball on the money whenever he gets opportunities.
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Arm talent is the criterion. Arm strength when it comes to QBs is a useless metric.

I disagree about it being a useless metric. A stronger arm is a huge benefit for certain throws, such as deep outs, deep posts, and crossing routes in traffic. In a lot of cases it’s more about being able to get the ball from point A to point B quickly than it is about how far you can throw it. Myles Brennan gets it from point A to point B VERY quickly with a nice tight spiral. But yes, he’s probably going to have to learn when to dial it back and no, it’s not the most important attribute for a college QB.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29436 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:27 pm to
Did that dude die? If so, how is that available to watch?
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
1822 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:30 pm to
Biggest loss is Burrow's ability to extend plays, no way Brennan will do that as good as Joe.

That said, kid can throw the ball. They will work to his advantages you will see the slot and TE thrive next year even more.

Can he handle the punishment of an SEC schedule? Joe was tough as nails.
Posted by Speedy Greedy
Member since Dec 2019
713 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:32 pm to
Steve Ensminger was one of the people that worked really hard with Joe on the fundamentals. His accuracy became elite.
Posted by Phantom17
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
225 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:38 pm to
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Depends on if you believe Burrow is a system QB or not. The SEC better hope he isn’t because Brennan’s arm is significantly better than Burrow’s.


Based on last year, I'm leaning toward system. Can't recall how many times joeb had to thread the needle. Seems a lot were near wide open passes.
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:07 am to
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If we are talking about putting the ball in a tight window, I think Brennan is every bit as accurate as Burrow.


Give me a break, Brennan is nowhere close to being as accurate as Joe Burrow. Put down the crack pipe.

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I think Brennan is every bit as accurate as Burrow. If you made the two of them compete throwing at a tire swing, I could even see Brennan winning.


Again, put down the crack pipe. You sound like you are Myles Brennan or his brother or father.

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. But he seems to put the ball on the money whenever he gets opportunities.




So far he hasn't demonstrated that he is close to being as accurate as Joe Burrow. Which is why I hope he spends the entire offseason working on his accuracy and his touch while also at the same time gelling and developing chemistry with the receivers. Nonetheless, up until this point, he hasn't been close to Joe Burrow.

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I disagree about it being a useless metric. A stronger arm is a huge benefit for certain throws, such as deep outs, deep posts, and crossing routes in traffic.


Well if a QB doesn't have at least a minimum of arm strength to at least make those throws, then that person shouldn't be a QB.

The truth is there are a ton of people that can make all those throws, but they don't play QB cause they can't make those damn throws accurately enough. Without accuracy, you are useless.

Of course, a QB has to be strong enough to make the throws, that goes without saying. Nonetheless, arm strength without accuracy is totally useless. If it wasn't useless, then everybody would be QBs.

Moreover, it doesn't matter how you get the ball to point A to point B if you can't do it accurately and if no one can't catch cause you are incapable of throwing with touch, then that's useless as well.

Indeed, I don't care how tight the spiral is if a QB can't get the ball their accurately and with enough touch so the receivers can't catch it. Cause if a QB can't do that, then he is useless.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:32 am to
Well your a fool. Brennan’s stats playing with the backups throughout the last 2 years are actually better than 2018 Burrow. He knows the offense, and will finally play with the first team.

There’s no other SEC QB that matches his stats or potential going into 2020....
Posted by LSU Bayou Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
681 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:49 am to
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Well your a fool. Brennan’s stats playing with the backups throughout the last 2 years are actually better than 2018 Burrow.


No, you are a dumb arse, cause no one in their right mind is comparing Joe Burrow in 2018 to Myles Brennan unless they are stupid like you and who cares? Give me a damn break, you dumb moron. Indeed, explain to me how that means that Myles Brennan is somehow in Joe Burrow's league? Put down the crack pipe you dumb fool.

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here’s no other SEC QB that matches his stats or potential going into 2020....


I'm hoping that Brennan turns out to be a quality QB too, but nonetheless, who the phuck are you? Myles Brennan's father, brother, mother, sister, aunt, uncle, or cousin? Indeed, explain how you are related to Myles Brennan?
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 12:54 am
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