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How To Re-Align the SEC
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:41 pm
With Texas, and Oklahoma set to join the conference, the SEC is about to be ridiculously stacked - The SEC West in particular.
In order to offset this, I came up with a way for the SEC to become more dynamic, and fair.
Basically we do away with East/West.
The conference is divided up into group 1 and group 2.
The prior season's final conference rankings are used to divide the conference.
1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 in group 1
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 in group 2.
This would evenly distribute the conference, and allow for more inter-conference matchups instead of playing the same teams every year at the same time.
In order to offset this, I came up with a way for the SEC to become more dynamic, and fair.
Basically we do away with East/West.
The conference is divided up into group 1 and group 2.
The prior season's final conference rankings are used to divide the conference.
1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15 in group 1
2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 in group 2.
This would evenly distribute the conference, and allow for more inter-conference matchups instead of playing the same teams every year at the same time.
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Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:42 pm to ChromaticTide
The backup plan is better.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:53 pm to ChromaticTide
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:53 pm to 1801
quote:
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Back in the good ole days. Back before the Dildo and Milk Toast nation attacked.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 3:58 pm to ChromaticTide
In 2022 it would look like this:
group 1:
Alabama
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Tennessee
South Carolina
LSU
Vanderbilt
group 2:
Georgia
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Miss. St.
Missouri
Auburn
Florida
This would be a lot more evenly split, and would give us a lot of unusual matchups. Better for the fans.
group 1:
Alabama
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Tennessee
South Carolina
LSU
Vanderbilt
group 2:
Georgia
Kentucky
Texas A&M
Miss. St.
Missouri
Auburn
Florida
This would be a lot more evenly split, and would give us a lot of unusual matchups. Better for the fans.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:02 pm to DirtyDawg
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Back in the good ole days. Back before the Dildo and Milk Toast nation attacked.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:08 pm to ChromaticTide
It amazes me how stupid this place is.
No. Everyone stresses about this "division" thing as if it does anything more than divide the conference in to two round robins for an easy way to determine if you want a championship game.
But that is largely because the NCAA said in order to have a championship game you want a complete round robin for balanced scheduling. Duh. You want that REGARDLESS of if it allows for a championship game or not.
But here is the thing, it doesn't need to be the same division every year, it just needs to be as complete as possible.
So what you can do is create four divisions(gasp) and pair them each year and create two round robin. You don't even have to pick the winners of the new "divisions" based on standings, but you probably would because if it came down to CFP rankings there will be bias.
Cotton Division:
Arkansas
Mizzou
Oklahoma
tu
Magnolia Division:
LSU
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Dixie Division:
Alabama
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Peach Division:
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Ole Miss/State
Texas A&M/tu
Alabama/Auburn
Tennessee/Vanderbilt
Would be permanent cross division rivals.
LSU/Arkansas
Kentucky/Florida
Optional.
You can create secondary cross division rivalries like Alabama/LSU, Tennessee/Georgia if you want as well in off years so those teams play 2 out of every 3 years.
You maintain 8 games(which is of EXTREME importance and absolutely NO conference schedule should have 9 when the SEC is as strong as it is). You maintain rivalries. Every player(even the 3 year year guys) will play every single SEC team in their careers. You create balance.
So. fricking. Simple.
No. Everyone stresses about this "division" thing as if it does anything more than divide the conference in to two round robins for an easy way to determine if you want a championship game.
But that is largely because the NCAA said in order to have a championship game you want a complete round robin for balanced scheduling. Duh. You want that REGARDLESS of if it allows for a championship game or not.
But here is the thing, it doesn't need to be the same division every year, it just needs to be as complete as possible.
So what you can do is create four divisions(gasp) and pair them each year and create two round robin. You don't even have to pick the winners of the new "divisions" based on standings, but you probably would because if it came down to CFP rankings there will be bias.
Cotton Division:
Arkansas
Mizzou
Oklahoma
tu
Magnolia Division:
LSU
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
Dixie Division:
Alabama
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Tennessee
Peach Division:
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Ole Miss/State
Texas A&M/tu
Alabama/Auburn
Tennessee/Vanderbilt
Would be permanent cross division rivals.
LSU/Arkansas
Kentucky/Florida
Optional.
You can create secondary cross division rivalries like Alabama/LSU, Tennessee/Georgia if you want as well in off years so those teams play 2 out of every 3 years.
You maintain 8 games(which is of EXTREME importance and absolutely NO conference schedule should have 9 when the SEC is as strong as it is). You maintain rivalries. Every player(even the 3 year year guys) will play every single SEC team in their careers. You create balance.
So. fricking. Simple.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:10 pm to TeLeFaWx
My way is simple. Your way is really complicated.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:26 pm to ChromaticTide
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My way is simple. Your way is really complicated.
Your way likely has issues with the number of home and away games each team has every year.
Also seems to completely ignore rival games.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:40 pm to ChromaticTide
How about bring back the SWC and send a lot of dead beats back home?
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:43 pm to 3down10
It pretty much has to go to pods. Play the 3 in your pod and 2 each on a rotation from the other 3 pods and you have 9 games for football. Yes you're going to lose some games that recently have been good matchups/rivalries, and we might (gasp) lose the Bama-Tennessee game, but whatever. Hasn't been a game in over a decade. Keep your in-state rivalries in tact, which means Egg Bowl/Iron Bowl and Vandy-UT, and will add in Texas vs A&M again annually. Plus this way every 4 year class at a school will get a chance to play every school in the conference.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:48 pm to TeLeFaWx
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TeLeFaWx
Your desire for cutesy pod names has lead to some really bad distribution.
Not a single program that could hope to challenge Bama in its pod. Florida, Georgia AND Auburn in a pod? That's retarded.
UTjr and OU in the same pod invalidates the novelty of bringing them in. Especially if you pair them with Missouri and Arkansas.
Bad team distribution all around.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:52 pm to weremoose
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Not a single program that could hope to challenge Bama in its pod.
Well. Being the best in your pod means absolutely nothing. No trophy. No automatic bid. It's just a scheduling mechanism as every time you're paired with another pod. Alabama could beat all those teams and still finish 3-5.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:52 pm to 1801
quote:
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
Why stop there?
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Alabama
Auburn
Louisiana State
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
I mean, really, in the grand scheme of things, what would be lost?
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:53 pm to TU Rob
quote:
It pretty much has to go to pods. Play the 3 in your pod and 2 each on a rotation from the other 3 pods and you have 9 games for football. Yes you're going to lose some games that recently have been good matchups/rivalries, and we might (gasp) lose the Bama-Tennessee game, but whatever. Hasn't been a game in over a decade. Keep your in-state rivalries in tact, which means Egg Bowl/Iron Bowl and Vandy-UT, and will add in Texas vs A&M again annually. Plus this way every 4 year class at a school will get a chance to play every school in the conference.
It doesn't need to go to 9 games and you don't have to lose Alabama/UT. You're dumb.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:55 pm to TeLeFaWx
Alternate division names:
Sweet Tea Division
Collard Greens Division
Sweet Tea Division
Collard Greens Division
Posted on 4/18/22 at 4:57 pm to ChromaticTide
1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16
2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15
2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:05 pm to TU Rob
quote:
It pretty much has to go to pods. Play the 3 in your pod and 2 each on a rotation from the other 3 pods and you have 9 games for football. Yes you're going to lose some games that recently have been good matchups/rivalries, and we might (gasp) lose the Bama-Tennessee game, but whatever. Hasn't been a game in over a decade. Keep your in-state rivalries in tact, which means Egg Bowl/Iron Bowl and Vandy-UT, and will add in Texas vs A&M again annually. Plus this way every 4 year class at a school will get a chance to play every school in the conference.
You pretty much said the problem with it. I don't care about keeping rivalry games every year, but many people do.
I think they end up just keeping the rival games as perm games, then rotate all the other spots. I think it'll require 3 permanent games max and leave 5(ideally IMO, but it will probably be 6) minimum games to rotate.
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:08 pm to ChromaticTide
We have already found a reasonable realignment. Get out the map and put a circle of the group close to each other and it seems to be perfect match. Texas, Texas A&M, LSU, OU, Arkansas, Missouri, Ole Miss, MSU
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina, Tennessee.
How can anyone not see that is the answer? More balance and all within each other in their group?
Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina, Tennessee.
How can anyone not see that is the answer? More balance and all within each other in their group?
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 4/18/22 at 5:09 pm to makersmark1
If the college football playoff is expanded then just drop the SEC championship game. Best record wins and it is possible for ties. Sure there will be “easy” schedules versus tougher, but it should all cycle round.
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