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re: How much talent is on each SEC roster? If the recruiting gurus are right, there's
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:03 pm to koreandawg
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:03 pm to koreandawg
Blue Chip ratio is pretty much the most important factor in success.
There just not enough time to recruit 3 stars and coach em up.20 hour practice weeks and 3 year draft eligibility puts a HUGE premium on recruiting.Nick figured this out long before anybody else.
There just not enough time to recruit 3 stars and coach em up.20 hour practice weeks and 3 year draft eligibility puts a HUGE premium on recruiting.Nick figured this out long before anybody else.
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:17 am to koreandawg
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5. Texas A&M (88 rated players avg. 3.38 stars): 0 5-stars, 35 4-stars, 51 3-stars,
Those are startlingly low numbers of 4 and 5's for a school in the heart of some of the most fertile recruiting territory.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 12:21 am
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:42 am to momentoftruth87
Used Chicago style when I was in school.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:44 am to RD Dawg
Yep. The only schools to win a recent title without two top 5 finishes in recruiting in the previous 4 years were Auburn in 2010 and Clemson in 2016. They still had pretty good recruiting classes though, especially Clemson. And both had all world talents that don't come around very often at QB.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:14 am to koreandawg
UGA has been this high for the last 10 years, and haven’t won crap! You do realize that most of LSU’s 5 star players don’t see a senior year, compared to Bama where somehow the majority stay...part of the “Process”. In addition,
Under Richt, the majority of Georgia’s 5 star players were kicked off the team for dicipline reasons.
Under Richt, the majority of Georgia’s 5 star players were kicked off the team for dicipline reasons.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:30 am to Tiger365
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UGA has been this high for the last 10 years, and haven’t won crap! You do realize that most of LSU’s 5 star players don’t see a senior year, compared to Bama where somehow the majority stay...part of the “Process”.
Yes, and we got a new coach because of it. Also, the reason Alabama keeps so many 5 stars is because their 5 stars sit behind other 5* players. So they have to wait their turn. They are willing to wait because so many get big NFL contracts.
quote:Majority? Hyperbole, much. Obviously some did. LSU just held team votes or ignored bad drug tests.
Under Richt, the majority of Georgia’s 5 star players were kicked off the team for dicipline reasons.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:33 am to koreandawg
Recruiting rankings are fake.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:42 am to BhamDore
Vanderbilt's football history indicates that recruiting rankings are probably onto something.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:16 am to Crowknowsbest
If you believe in recruiting rankings then Tennessee, Florida,Texas, are all talented teams, but we know they are not.
Recruiting rankings are nothing, but entertainment to make it through the long off season.
There is no way possible to discern the talent difference between the # 4 WDE and the #6 OT. It's just impossible.
Take the NFL draft for instance. 32 Teams with huge professional scouting staffs get it wrong every year. This is after kids have been developed by college coaches and they have 3 or 4 years of high level game tape and have attended practices.
High school scouting is done by some guys trying to sell subscriptions to a website. Lots of these kids have never been in a real strength and conditioning program. There are 25 to 40 kids that are a cut above the rest then it's a crapshoot after that.
Recruiting rankings are nothing, but entertainment to make it through the long off season.
There is no way possible to discern the talent difference between the # 4 WDE and the #6 OT. It's just impossible.
Take the NFL draft for instance. 32 Teams with huge professional scouting staffs get it wrong every year. This is after kids have been developed by college coaches and they have 3 or 4 years of high level game tape and have attended practices.
High school scouting is done by some guys trying to sell subscriptions to a website. Lots of these kids have never been in a real strength and conditioning program. There are 25 to 40 kids that are a cut above the rest then it's a crapshoot after that.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:27 am to BhamDore
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Recruiting rankings are nothing, but entertainment to make it through the long off season.
Odds of Becoming an All-American, by Recruiting Ranking
5–Star: 1 in 4.
Top 100: 1 in 6.
4–Star: 1 in 16.
3–Star: 1 in 56.
2–Star: 1 in 127.
All FBS Signees: 1 in 45.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 8:29 am
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:30 am to Tiger365
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UGA has been this high for the last 10 years, and haven’t won crap
Well, no, we haven’t. This is uncharted territory for uga.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:03 am to BhamDore
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If you believe in recruiting rankings then Tennessee, Florida,Texas, are all talented teams, but we know they are not.
Lack of success does not necessarily mean a lack of talent. It could mean poor coaching. I think most will agree those schools have suffered recently because of this fact.
quote:You may be right. but there is a difference between a 5* OT and a 3* OT. A #6OT is a 5* and a #4 WDE is a high 4*, so not, there isn't a huge amount of difference. But if you widen the gap there comes a significant difference.
There is no way possible to discern the talent difference between the # 4 WDE and the #6 OT. It's just impossible.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:18 am to BhamDore
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If you believe in recruiting rankings then Tennessee, Florida,Texas, are all talented teams, but we know they are not.
No one said they are the only factor in success. They are also not an exact science. What has proven true is that teams with highly ranked recruiting classes tend to compete at a higher level than teams that don't. Logically, bigger, stronger, and faster players are going to be ranked higher, and teams with more of those players than others will tend to be more successful.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 9:29 am to koreandawg
Bama and UGA 
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:12 am to koreandawg
UGA has been the top 2-3 most talented team in the SEC and top 10 in the country for the past 15 years based on recruiting rankings. The results on the field never quite matched up.
Remember UGAs "Dream Team" recruiting class?
Kirby's staff has done a better job of true talent evaluation than Richt's staff did, and has done a better job of developing players.
UGAs OL is going to be as good or better than anyone in the country as long as they have that OL coach bringing in 5* OL.
Remember UGAs "Dream Team" recruiting class?
Kirby's staff has done a better job of true talent evaluation than Richt's staff did, and has done a better job of developing players.
UGAs OL is going to be as good or better than anyone in the country as long as they have that OL coach bringing in 5* OL.
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:25 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
When a 5 star comes to Alabama and he gets around Nick Saban and his staff, he comes to realize he doesn't know shite. And if he's the right kind of guy, he likes it because he knows he's going to become more valuable than most other 5 stars out there when his time comes (usually after only 3 years) and make a much bigger impact in the NFL than he ever dreamed possible.
Having this kind of impact on a person's life then becomes even bigger than merely winning national championships. This is why Saban is closer to being a legend than just being another great football coach. Saban is literally on another level on another planet in another part of the fricking universe.
Having this kind of impact on a person's life then becomes even bigger than merely winning national championships. This is why Saban is closer to being a legend than just being another great football coach. Saban is literally on another level on another planet in another part of the fricking universe.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:28 am to CivilTiger83
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UGA has been the top 2-3 most talented team in the SEC for the past 15 years based on recruiting rankings.
This isn't really true, especially toward the tail end of Richt's tenure.
For example, the "Dream Team" class, while hyped, was ranked 7th nationally and 3rd in the conference. Most were lower than that in the conference.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:30 am to koreandawg
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The only schools to win a recent title without two top 5 finishes in recruiting in the previous 4 years were Auburn in 2010 and Clemson in 2016.
AU 2010 - generational talent at QB
Clemson in 2016 - generational talent at QB
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:38 am to koreandawg
Not sure how he got only 77 players for LSU, we have 82 scholarship players at the moment, of which 81 were rated. Only Cole Tracy, PK transfer from DIV-II was not rated out of high school.
Growden our punter and Ferguson our long snapper are the 2 2-stars.
He's missing a handful of LSU players
Growden our punter and Ferguson our long snapper are the 2 2-stars.
He's missing a handful of LSU players
Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:40 am to bamasgot13
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UGA has been the top 2-3 most talented team in the SEC and top 10 in the country for the past 15 years based on recruiting rankings
You just made that shite up. GTFO of here with that crap and bring real facts.
2007, 8th National 5th SEC
2008, 7th National 3th SEC
2009, 4th National 3th SEC
2010, 11th National 5th SEC
2011, 7th National 3rd SEC
2012, 9th National 3rd SEC
2013, 12th National 6th SEC
2014, 8th National 5th SEC
2015, 6th National 3th SEC
2016, 6th National 3th SEC
UGA has never made the top two in SEC until the last two years. Unlike the ACC the SEC is a tough conference to play in.
Ninja edit: I quit at 2007... 2006 we were second in the SEC, we should of won it all the next year
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 10:44 am
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