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re: How long will the next Bama coach last?

Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:34 am to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:34 am to
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There hasn't been a single game in years the fan base didn't confidently believe they'd win. In fact, I think it'd get kind of boring to watch.


Agree and disagree here. We do expect to win and that is something Saban has created within the culture, but we are not over confident just expecting and why it also does not make for boring games but maybe more intense. Many fan bases may go into a game hoping for a win or the big win, we seem to go into games not wanting a loss. Why sometimes we take a loss harder than other fan bases.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30597 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:36 am to
Folks around here are more concerned with how long the present coach will last!
Posted by 25mellon
Pittsburgh
Member since Nov 2015
403 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:51 pm to
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the best coach.


Yes in the power 5. They are the only group represented in the League. (FBS 1A). Other than that who knows. He earned a lot of plastic.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:19 pm to
i don't think Dabo will be be in their initial top 3 or 4. they will want somebody with NFL experience or one of Saban's former or current assistant coaches. Saban may handpick his successor.

i don't think Dabo leaves Clemson. going to Alabama is a lateral move and I thinnk Clemson is an easier school to recruit players, being closer to the north east but also close to Georgia and Florida, plus being near the mountains and lake next to campus.

i think Dabo would have a hard time leaving his mansion on a clear water mountain lake to go to centeral Alabama. lol
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 5:21 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:35 pm to
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going to Alabama is a lateral move


Quite possibly the dumbest thing you have ever posted, which is quite an accomplishment.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:47 pm to
or you are arrogant . what was Alabama doing before Saban. you have a short memory

you guys always say the SEC west is best division in college fball, and ACC is cake, so why would Alabama be better job if the goal is to win natties, other than a little more money.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 5:48 pm
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Tidemeister
Member since May 2016
1234 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:54 pm to
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or will they accept that the dynasty is over


Bama haters said same thing after Wallace Wade's dynasty ended. Bama haters same thing after Frank Thomas's dynasty ended. And Bear Bryant's. And Gene Stallings.' Nick Saban's will one day end. So you don't think another dynasty for Bama will be in the cards after Saban? On a long term time line, Bama is the only school in the SEC that is in a perpetual nonstop dynasty.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted by bubba35741
Member since Sep 2011
889 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:58 pm to
Let Saban pick ....we should have hired Bryants pick of Stallings....
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:58 pm to
Clemson was in title game last year and was better team on defense and offense only lost b/c terrible on special teams, like 120th in the country, and Dabo has top recruiting classes every year. Clemson has better traditions and a better geographic location and more unique campus.

Alabama last title prior to Saban's first was 1992. if it is so great , then why no titles for so long. Bama's recent success has been about Saban, not Alabama being some kind of Camelot of football.



btw, Clemson went undefeated in regular season and had tougher conference opponent and 1st round opponet in playoffs. Clemson should have played MSU in the first round b/c they were obviously the less talented team. most people thought Okla was the best prior to playoffs and Clemson destroyed them. we had 3 of our stars on defense hurt in the title game, Shaq Lawson, Mckensie Alexander, and bouleware

Alabama lost to a mediocre Ole Miss team , at home. lol i'm not sure how Alabama can say they had a better season last year. winning the last game of the season doesn't offset fact you lost at home to a mediocre team.

in the pre-BCS era, Clemson would have been the title winner. teams could win it back at 12-0 or 11-1, etc. Clemson was only undefeated team prior to playoffs. how does Dabo top that at Alabama. right now Clemson is 8-0, so Dabo is 22-1 the past two seasons.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Snout Spout
Somewhere in the 17th century
Member since Jul 2015
957 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:59 pm to
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Urbs is never coming back to the SEC.


He might change his mind once Saban is no longer blocking the path to a national title.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:08 pm to
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r you are arrogant . what was Alabama doing before Saban. you have a short memory


You ( a Clemson fan) just told us that taking a job at Bama coming from Clemson is a lateral move. You are the arrogant one. Yes Bama had some bad years, but not near as many as frickin Clemson. A team that constantly let's it fans down by losing when they shouldn't is said to do what? They are Clemsoning. When a team goes into full dynasty mode they are said to be Alabamaing, Miamiing, USCing,Nebraskaing, These teams have built and maintained dynasties in my lifetime. Never Clemson, not once. Do you comprehend the difference?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:10 pm to
it seems arrogant to say Bama is better coaching job than Clemson, not that both are good jobs. you are a Bama brown-noser.

the clemsoning thing is stupid. Clemson usually beats teams it is truly more talented then. the teams that beat Clemson are either as talented more talented.

i never seen Clemson get beat like Bama did 3 years ago at Auburn. it's lost to mediocre Ole miss teams in two recent years.

Clemson beat heck out of Okla last two years, including the first time when they had Knight, who had carved up Alabama the year before in a bowl.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:13 pm
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:11 pm to
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it seems arrogant to say Bama is better coaching job than Clemson, not that both are good jobs. you are a Bama brown-noser.


Alabama is a top 5 job for a college football coach. Clemson is a stepping stone to a better job. It is not arrogant. It is the truth.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:14 pm to
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Alabama is a top 5 job for a college football coach. Clemson is a stepping stone to a better job. It is not arrogant. It is the truth.


ok, if you say so. our coach that won the national title in 81 was fired eventually. one assumes that other programs that are 'better' would have hired him.

i don' tthink Dabo is going to go to Alabama. you alabama fans don't get to decide what coaches do. the world doesn't revolve around your program. lol

if he does go to Bama, it will have to do with fact he went to college there and he grew up nearby in Pelham, which isn't a scenario for most coaches.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:16 pm
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24115 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:17 pm to
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it seems arrogant to say Bama is better coaching job than Clemson, not that both are good jobs. you are a Bama brown-noser.

the clemsoning thing is stupid. Clemson usually beats teams it is truly more talented then. the teams that beat Clemson are either as talented more talented.

i never seen Clemson get beat like Bama did 3 years ago at Auburn. it's lost to mediocre Ole miss teams in two recent years.

Clemson beat heck out of Okla last two years, including the first time when they had Knight, who had carved up Alabama the year before in a bowl



I can smoke hashould that's 70% the all day without a problem. But after reading that post, I feel like my iq just dropped 20 points. Shut up, before I enter double digits.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:18 pm to
how many titles did Alabama since 1992 prior to Saban's first. Alabama's success right now is about Saban who could be said to be best all time coach, if he hasn't been cheating in recruiting. it has nothing to do with Alabama itself. why would anybody want to go to central Alabama for college unless the coach is good. that town isn't some kind of utopia. Clemson is a mountain lake resort basically. that's how we get studs out of Florida, they like the big change of scenery.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:20 pm
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:20 pm to
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Ray Perkins would have probably been a very good coach at UA, long term, had he not decided to return to the NFL. He rubbed a lot of people at UA the wrong way, and back then, there were some people with agendas trying to run the program. Thankfully, most of them are gone. Dabo, or whoever follows Saban, probably won't have to deal with that, as times have changed.

That said, it's hard to replace a Paul Bryant or Nick Saban. A few lean years make you appreciate more the good times. Hallelujeh, and the congregation said "Amen".

edit: I've played music since I was a teen. I've suggested a few times Whiskey Dick and The Too Drunk To Funk Band as a band name, but never got any support for that one. I like it.



some of that 'rubbing' was intentional on his part ... might've been necessary ... i do remember an interview after he left where he said the time required for the job was too much for him ... can't remember if he was ad or not, but he gave the interview on the golf course with the reporter riding along and mentioned he wouldn't be able to play a round while giving an interview ...
Posted by A Lite
Member since Jan 2016
2401 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:27 pm to
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Les Miles took over a team loaded with Saban's talent and won a national title (with 2 losses).

CNS will leave the Tide stocked with talent. Plenty of great coaches will be begging for the job.


Hi Wraith. pERsonally, I think Saban becomes the AD and hires Kiffin as head coach but stays in the same building with him.

Saban and Kiffin enjoy many years of fishing together at Lake Burton and letting their children grow up together. Layla is coming back and will be Queen Bama.

Kiffin bonds so strongly with Saban that he imitates his coaching style to a tee and leads Bama to four more NC's in 8 years as head coach.

Then, when Kiffin retires, Gruden takes over.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:29 pm to
Clemson was better than Bama in the 80s, Bama only had two great seaons in the 1990s, 91 and 92, and Clemson was mediocre and then bad under Tommy West.

Clemson was better in the 00's under Bowden, until Saban got to Bama, and Bowden got fired that year soon after being crushed by Bama due to a bad O-line. Bama lost 7 in a row to Auburn. some dynasty lol

Bama has been ineligible for a bowl game 3 times since 1995, and they've had many wins vacated for several seasons. if it is so great, why so many violations of NCAA rules.

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