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re: How does UGA's national championship affect the SEC all time program rankings?

Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Oklahomey
Bucksnort, TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:36 pm to
1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Florida
4. LSU
5. Tennessee
6. Auburn
7. Arkansas
8. Ole Miss
9. Texas Aggies
10. Missouri
11. Kentucky
12. Miss State
13. South Carolina
14. Vanderbilt
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:38 pm to
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ncaa.com says UT and UGA each have 2 national titles

LINK

But that site is the Reader's Digest version. Go to NCAA.ORG if you want the official titles that the NCAA recognizes.

NCAA.org
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:49 pm to
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Explain the other 40 years. Not another program in the country with the assets that UGA geographically that has achieved less:



Well....except for Auburn. You are practically in Georgia and have easy access to Georgia, Florida and Alabama recruits. Georgia and Alabama has more titles, more wins, more bowls more bowl wins etc.

Only Auburn fans think not being a "State" school means something. Alabama and Auburn gets the same amount of money from the state of Alabama and half of the Auburn commits commit to "The university of Auburn" so the clearly have no idea nor do they care if Auburn is the state school. That is just some crappy made up excuse Auburn fans make to make themselves feel better for their underachieving. Y'all act like you are not allowed to recruit past state lines.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:57 pm to
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Explain the other 40 years. Not another program in the country with the assets that UGA geographically that has achieved less:


Uga was elite from 1980-83.

Uga sucked from 84-96.

Uga winning % is 4th best P5 in the nation from 97-01.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:06 pm to
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Wrong. Apparently you were focused completely on your championship team last year, and didn't see anything that happened up the road. All things go in cycles, and we are finally cycling up. As the second best team in the south alltime, we are about to solidify our hold rather than still sitting in purgatory.




While I might disagree with Tennessee is a dying star it might be a tad early to start declaring UT in an upward cycle. In the last 10 years UT's records have been:

5-7
5-7
7-6
9-4
9-4
4-8
5-7
8-5
3-7
7-5

If your team can pull of 10 wins this coming season, I would say things might be looking up. But it wasn't that long ago Butch Jones had back to back 9-5 seasons and UT fans declared UT was back. Huepel seems to have you headed in a good direction, but maybe you shouldn't jump the gun just yet. Maybe. Maybe not. Tennessee is certainly playing a more exciting game right now, but Huepel needs to get that defense turned around or it will quickly turn back into the same ole, same ole.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:10 pm to
You're terrible at this.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:18 pm to
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it wasn't that long ago Butch Jones had back to back 9-5 seasons and UT fans declared UT was back.


They were also back under Pruitt with that amazing win streak in 2019.
Posted by ClassicCityAlum
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2019
883 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:24 pm to
1. Alabama
2. LSU
3. Georgia (tie)
3. Florida (tie)
3. Tennessee (tie - soon to drop to 5)
6. Auburn
7. Others
14. Vanderbilt
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:30 pm to
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But that site is the Reader's Digest version. Go to NCAA.ORG if you want the official titles that the NCAA recognizes.


Regardless of what the NCAA recognizes, it doesn't make them official-

AP, Coaches, BCS and CFP are the only titles of which there is a consensus of being legitimate.

All these retroactive Bilingsley, Sagaran... poll champions are complete bullshite.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 6:52 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:45 pm to
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Regardless of what the NCCA recognizes, it doesn't make them official-


Okay. So tell us what makes one official.

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AP, Coaches, BCS and CFP are the only titles of which there is a consensus of being legitimate.

And before those existed or were officially recognized by.....who?

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All these retroactive Bilingsley, Sagaran... poll champions are complete bull shite.


Thanks for your opinion. It is every bit as legitimate as everybody else's. No more and no less. Polls are opinions just like anybody until the playoffs, and even then the teams that deserve to be in the playoffs are/were opinion. So who is to say which are official and which are not? All I was saying was that the NCAA recognizes all of those as titles. Just because you don't matters very little.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:46 pm to
Why would the BCS not count? Those titles were won on the field under a system everyone agreed to.
This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 4:47 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Why would the BCS not count? Those titles were won on the field under a system everyone agreed to.




All of the titles were won under the system thta existed at that time, were they not?

The BCS teams were picked based off a poll, therefore an opinion. You guys need to make up your mind. Either opinion count or they do not.

Do the titles that the NCAA recognize count....or not?
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:04 pm to
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The BCS teams were picked based off a poll, therefore an opinion.

Just like the CFP.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:06 pm to
Okay. So tell us what makes one official.

quote:
AP, Coaches, BCS and CFP are the only titles of which there is a consensus of being legitimate.

And before those existed or were officially recognized by.....who?
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Consensus = generally accepted, thus legitimate.

But hey, it’s your prerogative if you choose to believe that a retroactive poll determined by guy named Jeff Sagarin 90 years after the season occurred is legitimate.

But objectively the only schools claiming these titles generally can’t lay claim to the others.

This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 7:26 pm
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8811 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:35 pm to
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No one can seriously place Florida above us. They had a fantastic run from the early 90's to Tebow, but 18 years of good does not make up for 100+ years of "meh".


I mean they have outperformed UGA this century. I get it, UGA holds the Title and well deserved but the 1980 thing still stands in the way of being above Tenn, Auburn, Florida, and especially LSU.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19081 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:40 pm to
Tennessee is ranked 6 and barely hanging on there.

No National or SEC Championship since 1998. Last SEC East Championship was 15 years ago.

The only reason they make the list at this point is by default. Who else do you put there?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:57 pm to
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UGA holds the Title and well deserved but the 1980 thing still stands in the way of being above Tenn, Auburn, Florida, and especially LSU.


Do what? We have 13 conference titles to Auburn's 8, lead head to head,more total wins,more top 10's,more bowl wins and more major bowl wins.On what possible metric would they be ahead of UGA?

If not for the Clint Stoerner miracle,UT would be looking at 71 Years without a NC.We're currently tied in conference titles,will surpass in total wins this season,lead in head to head,more bowl wins and major bowl wins and also the same amount of AP NC's
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:11 pm to
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the 1980 thing still stands in the way of being above Tenn, Auburn, Florida, and especially LSU.


This guy, so dumb
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:12 pm to
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All these retroactive Bilingsley, Sagaran... poll champions are complete bullshite.


Compared to what? "Consensus" polls dominated by northeastern sports writers?

I'd say Sagaran is much more accurate.Dont know or care about Bilingsley
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:49 pm to
Compared to what? "Consensus" polls dominated by northeastern sports writers?

I'd say Sagaran is much more accurate.Dont know or care about Bilingsley
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Of course you do, UGA wasn’t chosen as AP champ, Jeff Sagarin awards it to the Bulldogs posthumously nearly 80 years later.
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