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re: How does Tennessee dig out of their hole?

Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:17 am to
Fire Fulmer for starters.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
2993 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:19 am to
got a shovel that big?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:24 am to
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How does Tennessee dig out of their hole?

Looks like it's gonna take one of these:

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:32 am to
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Network money to invest in a solid football coach plus solid assistant coaches


What? Nobody spends like UT and I remember multiple posts on here after they hired Ansley,Chaney and Tee Martin, that talked about the Vols having the "best staff in the SEC"

Not so much now
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 11:35 am to
The issue with Tennessee is this:

Any program "turnaround" begins and ends with in-state recruiting. Outside of Memphis, which sends a lion's share of their talent to Ole Miss and U of Memphis, the in-state talent in Tennessee is really, really mediocre.

In the SEC, SIX states produce more blue-chip recruits than Tennessee: Texas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama. Easily translated, over half of the conference's teams have a leg-up on the Vols.

Moreover, when you think about the Fulmer Tennessee teams, he was on the bleeding edge of producing teams that were a majority out-of-state. When you think of great Vol players in the 90s and 2000s, you think of: Peyton Manning, Peerless Price, Leonard Little, Tee Martin, Donte Stallworth, Jason Witten, Eric Berry... only one of those players came from Tennessee (Witten). Pretty sure that weird Clausen family was from California as well.

Plainly put, Georgia Tech as a better leg to stand on when rebuilding their program than Tennessee.

It's virtually impossible to rebuild your program without locking up your in-state talent. Moreover, you better hope they are good.

What people don't talk about with the '08-'09 recruiting classes that turned Alabama around was -- a majority of their "big time guys" were actually from the state of Alabama. Julio Jones, Mark Barron, Courtney Upshaw, Marcel Dareus, Dre Kirkpatrick, Nico Johnson, DJ Fluker, and AJ McCarron are all hometown guys. I think all but Nico are still playing in the NFL.

The national recruiting for the Tide really didn't get rolling until 2011... but that's only because of the on-field success Saban had locking up Alabama, and being able to plug holes with guys from nearby Georgia, Florida, and Louisiana along the way.

It's going to be tough for Tennessee to make any kind of an impact unless by some miracle, Nashville stops producing a majority of slow white kids.
Posted by Freon
Sah Kurlahna
Member since Dec 2018
685 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 12:05 pm to
they can dig into their holes with a mere finger, as Clemson’s Ben Boulware has shown us it is the TRUE and HONEST key to SUCCESS.
This post was edited on 9/3/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 12:18 pm to
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How does Tennessee dig out of their hole?


Destiny dictates that Tennessee cannot move forward until Fulmer returns to HC and he dies on the field during an embarrassing loss. We seem to be heading in that direction.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 12:43 pm to
They have to separate themselves from Fulmer and his legacy. Every hire can't require their stamp of approval.

Kiffin was a step in the right direction.
Posted by tndawg
Nashville Tn
Member since Nov 2014
506 posts
Posted on 9/3/19 at 1:04 pm to
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