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How Does A Program Implode?

Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:34 am
I'm rewatching a little of the Alabama vs. FSU game of 2017.

It's crazy how much changed since then.
Landon Dickerson was lined up at LG for FSU.
Jimbo Fisher was head coach of the #3 Seminoles, and had budding star Deondre Francois at QB.

Since that game, the entire FSU program imploded, we never hear of Francois again, Jimbo goes to A&M, and Landon Dickerson becomes an Alabama legend.

It reminds me of Urban Meyer's implosion at Florida.
Of course there are other examples like Gene Chizik at Auburn, or Orgeron at LSU, but clearly this can even happen to great head coaches.

What causes this phenomena? Is it just a matter of having a roster full of shitty QBs?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:36 am to
OP became a bama fan after the Nick Saban hire
Posted by Pledge
Professional Baw
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:37 am to
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:38 am to
quote:

OP became a bama fan after the Nick Saban hire

Well considering he was hired when I was 5 years old, yeah
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5561 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:38 am to
Well in Tennessee’s case, you have a coach who gets fat and happy after winning a National title. You lose your top assistants, and fail to replace them with other quality assistants, and you become lazy on the recruiting trail, because you just expect top prospects to sign with you. That and other programs in your conference get their shite together and hire really good choices, I.e. Saban, Meyer, and Richt
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18044 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:39 am to
Hire John L. Smith then Bert, then the cherry on the crap cake, Chad Morris.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9176 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:42 am to
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How Does A Program Implode?

Willie Taggart
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:42 am to
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Hire John L. Smith then Bert, then the cherry on the crap cake, Chad Morris.

Lol.
I'm mostly talking about how a program implodes while under the leadership of a great coach, but I guess this is all relevant as well.

Now that I think of it, Mack Brown at Texas is another great example of this.
Posted by Sebastian Gorka
Member since Jun 2021
159 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:43 am to
Lose your offensive guru, see LSU this past year.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21236 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Willie Taggart


That ship was sinking before he took the job. He just punched another hole in the boat.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:47 am to
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considering he was hired when I was 5 years old

Whelp, this makes me feel old as frick.

Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36312 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:50 am to
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Well considering he was hired when I was 5 years old, yeah


Baw, are you even old enough to post on here?

I remember when I was the young guy
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Well considering he was hired when I was 5 years old, yeah


Do you have your parents permission to be here, son?

Lots of creepy boomer types running around on here
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:52 am to
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Baw, are you even old enough to post on here?

I'm a college student baw (20 years old)
Yall are just olddd
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:55 am
Posted by H2O Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:53 am to
He signed up at the same time he got his drivers license
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17685 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Yall are just olddd


Don't worry you'll get to be around 26 and college kids will call you old.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:59 am to
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or Orgeron at LSU,


you have to be more subtle than that.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9176 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:00 am to
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That ship was sinking before he took the job. He just punched another hole in the boat.


And Taggart was the grenade in the engine room.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8589 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:02 am to
It's like someone released a bull in an antique shop so to speak?
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