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re: How did the 12 SEC teams agree on these East & West permanent rivals for over a decade?
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:00 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:00 pm to DawginSC
quote:I think Athens and Oxford are very similar towns and there are a lot of kids from the Atlanta area that go to Ole Miss.
It wasn't a rivalry, but UGA and Ole Miss were at least somewhat familiar with each other in terms of having played a fair number of games
It might have been artificially created, but I enjoyed UGA playing Ole Miss.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:00 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I miss having Arkansas as a yearly opponent quite honestly. Those were some fun matchups.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:04 pm to Aggie1965
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I’m assuming you are young
Whilst I was not alive between 1906 and 1947 (

Depending on who you ask, you'll get a different answer as to why the game wasn't actually scheduled/played by either team.
Point was that scheduling itself was the wild west back in the early days, and was often done at the whims of the coaches involved.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:20 pm to bigDgator
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Auburn is Florida’s oldest rival, even older than Georgia. Auburn is also the closest SEC school in proximity to Gainesville. It was a great game that I hated to see go.
Further, Florida was the first SEC team to actually play in Auburn.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:22 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Our past history with Ole Miss and LSU was mostly forgotten by the time we joined the SEC. We hadn't played LSU since 1966 and Ole Miss wasn't much of a threat after that series was resumed in the early 80's.
Tennessee was the only SEC-e border state and it just made sense that we'd play them. As mentioned, we played SC because we were both new.
Tennessee was the only SEC-e border state and it just made sense that we'd play them. As mentioned, we played SC because we were both new.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:22 pm to lsufball19
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LSU and Florida
Depending on how you count "official" records (which is always a little weird), at least one site has this series in LSU's favor at 34–33–3, with an average point differential of 1.4.
Which is insane.

Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:29 pm to paperwasp
quote:To add further perspective on this, by 1980, everyone was playing 6 conference games. But the conference wasn't dictating who those 6 teams were. If an AD decided that traveling to Starkville was too much of a hassle to travel to, well then State isn't on the schedule.
Point was that scheduling itself was the wild west back in the early days, and was often done at the whims of the coaches involved.
Before then, there were many years where the teams didn't even play the same number of conference games. Look at 1970 where LSU won the conference with a 5-0 conference record, Tennessee wlfinished 2nd at 4-1, and Auburn finished 3rd at 5-2.

Posted on 5/9/24 at 4:41 pm to Murph4HOF
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there were many years where the teams didn't even play the same number of conference games
Good point. Starting in the '50s I believe, six games were required, but nothing said you couldn't play more.
In 1961, Alabama and LSU both went undefeated, played a different number of teams in-conference, and split the title (as co-champions).
Making matters more confusing, they only had three shared opponents.
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:31 pm to makersmark1
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Further, Florida was the first SEC team to actually play in Auburn.
I believe Georgia Tech played at Auburn way before UF.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 7:55 pm to Mstate
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I’ll give you that the 1998 team was probably one of the worst to ever win the west
Probably?

Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:09 pm to redeye
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we played SC because we were both new.
And should have kept it that way and matched up aggie and mizzou.
But instead they screwed usc and us. Something’s wrong with that..
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:16 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I can answer the MSU part
South Carolina was new and just randomly paired with MSU and they kept the newbies together.
Alabama had Tennessee, Auburn had Georgia and Florida, LSU wanted Florida
It was either Vanderbilt or Kentucky for MSU. Keep in mind, when these schedules were originally set, State was a top 25 club (They swept Texas in a home and home the first two years).
If you look at the '91 standings, the last of the 10-team SEC, State tied with Georgia for fourth and Kentucky went 0-7.
I won't argue that '98 State was one of the two worst SEC Championship participants ('95 Arkansas was terrible as well, but I think they had help via probation). But the West was awful that year. Four teams in the East would have won the West.
But unlike the '95 Hogs, State put up a fight in the actual championship game, and led midway through the fourth quarter.
South Carolina was new and just randomly paired with MSU and they kept the newbies together.
Alabama had Tennessee, Auburn had Georgia and Florida, LSU wanted Florida
It was either Vanderbilt or Kentucky for MSU. Keep in mind, when these schedules were originally set, State was a top 25 club (They swept Texas in a home and home the first two years).
If you look at the '91 standings, the last of the 10-team SEC, State tied with Georgia for fourth and Kentucky went 0-7.
I won't argue that '98 State was one of the two worst SEC Championship participants ('95 Arkansas was terrible as well, but I think they had help via probation). But the West was awful that year. Four teams in the East would have won the West.
But unlike the '95 Hogs, State put up a fight in the actual championship game, and led midway through the fourth quarter.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:17 pm to RD Dawg
Looks like GT played at Auburn in 1904 (before SEC was formed) but didn't go back to the Plains until 1970. They played a few games in Birmingham before that (starting in 1960), but for decades all games were played in Atlanta, for the money (teams used to split the gate evenly, so Auburn made more money playing GT in Atlanta than in Auburn).
Florida played at Auburn in 1939. Played a few Auburn home games in Montgomery before that.
Florida played at Auburn in 1939. Played a few Auburn home games in Montgomery before that.
Posted on 5/9/24 at 8:19 pm to lsufball19
quote:I always assumed it was because of the Gulf Coast. Fun fact, LSU is the closest SEC school to every town on the Gulf, until you get to around Pensacola, maybe further. The Mississippi and Alabama schools were further North. For LSU, you just hop on I-10 and roll West (or East, if you're in East Texas).
but oddly enough, LSU and Florida have been playing every year since the since 1971 and every year from 1953-1967. Never could figure out exactly how that came to be with how far they are from one another.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:20 am to RD Dawg
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Georgia Tech played at Auburn way before UF.
You are right.
Florida was the first to play in Cliff Hare stadium.
I always forget about GT.
That was another team we always played, even after the left the SEC.
Up to around the late 1980s.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 5:40 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Someone probably pointed this out but Auburn has always had the hardest schedule. In the 80’s before the division split, 4 out of the 5 annual games were Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 6:07 am to Mstate
The funny thing is that 98 team should have beaten eventual national champ Tennessee in the SEC title. Led 14-10 in 4th quarter and blew it like we love to do
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