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re: How Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown became the SEC's greatest RB duo of all-time

Posted on 6/6/18 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 9:42 pm to
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Arkansas also had Peyton Hillis in their backfield. Give me that over Ronnie and Cadillac

Yup


Mike Smith had to ride the pine behind those guys.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 10:30 pm to
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NFL bust


Cadillac was not a bust.

There is a huge difference in being a fat, lazy frick like Trent Richardson and and having your career destroyed by your head coach that not only ran you into ground but also destroyed the career of his other RB, Mike Alstott. For Gruden to laughably be the QB Guru for ESPN he sure as hell couldn't coach one up when he was HC at Tampa Bay.
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 2:16 am to
most increase in wins from one season to next is bill parcells then nick saban as of 06
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 2:17 am
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:49 am to
That article was stupid.

These two weren't even the best backfield in Auburn history.

For god's sakes, Auburn once had William Andrews, James Brooks, and Joe Cribbs on the field at the same time.

Come on, just come on. I expect better from Auburn guys. This article is just dumb.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:56 am to
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If we are going with best backfield ever, not best duo, it is 1983 AU.



Geez.

Tell ya what, just pick two of Cribbs, Andrews, and Brooks and call them the best duo.

Now:

quote:

Bo Jackson
Brent Fullwood
Tommie Aggee
Lionel James
Tim Jessie



This is more interesting. No doubt Bo Jackson is the best player of all the Auburn backs, at the college or pro level.

But to an outider, none of the other names hold a candle to the trio I think is the best.

I remember Fullwood and Agee pretty well, James is a familiar name, don't really remember Jessie.

But even though I believe Bo was the best back from Auburn ever, arguably when you consider longevity Brooks, Andrews, and Cribbs all had better pro careers (particularly Brooks and ANdrews).
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 8:56 am to
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Then it lasted longer than anyone could have imagined. In peak form, there was nothing quite like The Ronnie and Cadillac Show.


Agreed. Tuberville utilized both of them perfectly. They made me nervous when LSU played them. But I enjoyed watching them when they weren't playing LSU.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:07 am to
Who was the greatest duo that also won at least one national title?

Posted by TIGERSPIKE
Member since Oct 2016
1445 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:08 am to
Seriously Cribbs, Brooks, and Andrews may be the greatest RB trio in the history of college football for those who don't remember. A modern day equivalent would like having Leonard Fornette at FB with Reggie Bush and Dexter McCluster as the wing backs.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:32 am to
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article was stupid
It is typical bias relative to recency of the event. Taking into context how the style of football, rules, number of games in a season, number of seasons the backfield played together, and other factors evolve over the years makes finding a GOAT generally pretty difficult, when the lists (such as this) should be considered by their era of the game. Context matters, yet it is rarely taken into account.

For example, it would be an easy argument for UGA to say Sinkwich and Trippi had were the best UGA backfield of all time and maybe in SEC history. And, they likely would be remembered that way if not for a pesky war
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1942 totals: 1,615 yards rushing, 23 TD; 2,058 yards passing, 15 TD (2 eventual No. 1 picks)

Two future No. 1 picks, Sinkwich and Trippi led the Bulldogs to the national championship in 1942. Sinkwich won the Heisman in his senior season (the SEC’s first) with 17 rushing touchdowns while Trippi was also named as an All-American. The two players also combined for more than 2,000 passing yards that season. Trippi, who missed the 1943 and 1944 seasons while fighting in World War II, remains the only player enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame with at least 1,000 yards receiving, passing and rushing to his credit.



For the last 20 yrs, the 2007 Arky backfield was the best IMO. Brown and Cadillac 2004 follows. Then, Chubb and Michel.

UA specfic, the OP Bama backfield is third IMO behind Henry/drake (which could have been dominating with a healthy Drake) and 2010 with Ingram/TRich/Lacy.

But, opinions are like assholes. And, we certainly have a lot of each around these parts.
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:40 am to
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Who was the greatest duo that also won at least one national title?


Cadillac and Brown
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:40 am to
stats beg to differ

Michel & Chubb-8,382 yards
Williams & Brown-6,538 yards
This post was edited on 6/7/18 at 9:50 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24745 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:43 am to
What year was that? The People's National Champ year?

Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
2570 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:52 am to
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stats beg to differ

Stats don't always tell the whole story.
Posted by MsGarrison
Steele Town LOL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/7/18 at 9:59 am to
All thes UGlys running in here with look at us. Attention whores
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:01 am to
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Who was the greatest duo that also won at least one national title?
quote:

Cadillac and Brown
The "People's National Champions"!
Posted by SAINTS0321
Member since Jan 2016
3963 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:30 am to
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Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
519 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:49 am to
The stats don't really tell the story here. For people who watched the games you have to go with Arkansas. Keep in mind that during that time (and well most years it seems like) Arkansas had no pass game. Heck we basically were playing a redshirt freshman for 8 games and still won all of them despite that 'legendary' QB doing everything he could to lose the games... we ended up benching him for going 8-0. lol

If that Arkansas backfield had any kind of pass game, anything, that team would have easily won a national championship. Teams would put 9 to 10 guys in the box and we would still run over them. You don't see that in the stats.

Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5171 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:51 am to
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For example, it would be an easy argument for UGA to say Sinkwich and Trippi had were the best UGA backfield of all time and maybe in SEC history.
Billy Cannon/Jim Taylor for LSU are the same deal (except for the war part)

Billy Cannon:
#1 pick in the NFL draft
3× AFL champion
2× AFL All-Star
2× First-team All-AFL
2× Second-team All-AFL
1× AFL rushing yards leader
1× National champion
1× Heisman Trophy
2× SEC Player of the Year
2× Unanimous All-American
2× First-team All-SEC

Jim Taylor:
1× Super Bowl champion
4× NFL champion
5× Pro Bowl
3× First-team All-Pro
3× Second-team All-Pro
1× NFL Most Valuable Player
1× NFL rushing yards leader
2× NFL rushing touchdowns leader
1× NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame
1× First-team All-American
1× First-team All-SEC
NFL Hall of Fame

Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:51 am to
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Arkansas also had Peyton Hillis in their backfield. Give me that over Ronnie and Cadillac


Auburn also had Courtney Taylor, Anthony Mix and Ben Obomanu on that same team. LSU fans no doubt remember Courtney Taylor.


How many championships did auBarn win with all those great player? I can't remember.
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 10:52 am to
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77 78 79 3 natties,tony nathan major ogilvie


they were fricking awesome!!!
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