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re: Houston Nutt files lawsuit against OM.

Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:58 pm to
Unlike most of their fans.. Ole Miss is fricked.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:05 pm to
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No way any legitimate journalist shares off the record information and the source if they want to continue in their career.


If the source lied to you and made you look like a doofus, you don't worry too much about protecting that source.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64570 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:25 pm to
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way any legitimate journalist shares off the record information and the source if they want to continue in their career.

They can't plead the fifth amendment if they're subpoenaed. They could commit a crime and lie under oath but I don't see that happening either. And they can't just refuse to say anything. Has nothing to do with their career and wanting to divulge a source. It's just, like, the law if they're asked questions in court.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:28 pm to
OK I made it to page five, but can we put Nutt, Freeze, and Ole Mrs. in the same basket and push it off a cliff?
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6928 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:29 pm to
The question to me, is, what dollar figure does Houston go into the settlement meetings demanding?

Knowing Nutt, it'll be 50M, and it'll drag out until just before a set trial date, if OM can keep it as quiet as they can.

Realistically, he should open at about 30M, and settle for half.

This has the potential to completely hull Ole Miss for even longer than the NCAA infractions to date. This is epic level stuff- short of the dead girl/live boy, not much worse can happen for a football coach/administration.

And I hate that ***** Nutt. Its like a golden goose shits eggs on his head.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:31 pm to
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The question to me, is, what dollar figure does Houston go into the settlement meetings demanding


I'd hold out for that Bobby Bonilla settlement.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:32 pm to
Not exactly true. A member of the press does not have to reveal information from a source, or the source's identity unless he has information regarding a clear and present threat. However, press privilege is not like spousal or doctor-patient privilege, in that it only protects the press and not the source. If the press member wants to reveal the source he can do so if his ethics allow it.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:33 pm to
Some footage of Houston Nutt entering the courtroom:

LINK
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51379 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:51 pm to
Their is also another rule among the media.

Protect sources but if the source burns you, then you can burn the source.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51379 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:53 pm to
Ole Miss can't sign an NDA. State institution
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:56 pm to
And if that journalist doesn't protect his source he burns all the bridges he has built.
This isn't a criminal case where he would be under a great deal of pressure.
This is just Nutt squeezing out a few more dollars.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6928 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:59 pm to
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And if that journalist doesn't protect his source he burns all the bridges he has built. This isn't a criminal case where he would be under a great deal of pressure. This is just Nutt squeezing out a few more dollars.



The source has already screwed the journalist, here, by putting it in a place where Nutt could either get wind of it, or get a record of the conversation.

At that point, the journalist is almost obligated to strike back, if only to keep his sources from screwing him in the future.

Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:09 pm to
No. There won't be any sources for any future off the record conversations.
they weren't burned by their "source". They know every source puts the best spin
possible on information. Same as in politics. Current problems are always the cult of
the previous administration .
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:18 pm to
What is the point of maintaining a relationship with a source who lied to you? A source that put your reputation at risk?
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

They know every source puts the best spin
possible on information.


There is a significant difference between spin and outright lying about what a document says in plain English.
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:29 pm to
If you feel your source purposely lied to you then you don't continue use his information
without verification. If you think other sources won't dry up because you sold your source
out, rightly or wrongly , your naive . The reason this stuff is off the record is because the source doesn't want to be named . Name them and nobody trusts you with off the record info.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:34 pm to
If you don't want to talk to me because I might talk under oath if you use my reputation to libel someone else, then I don't have any use for your info.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:39 pm to
Exactly, Freeze/OM made many journalist look like fools because they fed them a false narrative to save the recruiting class. The NCAA saw what they were doing and went back in for the kill shot with the second investigation. The NCAA made damn sure that everyone knew without a doubt who wa the puppet master behind all those staffers orchestrating the Booster/recruit scheme in the Amended NOA.

The Nutt narrative was BS when the whole case is reviewed in its entirety.
Posted by Dave1999
Member since Apr 2016
289 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:47 pm to
No. The academic fraud was under Nutt regime. That is the most serious infraction
because it goes to the heart of what a university should stand for. Hunting trips , money
for utility bills , and cash paid by a booster pale in comparison. You don't think
all schools and the NCAA don't use journalists to put a narrative out ? Of course they do
and journalists know it.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

You don't think
all schools and the NCAA don't use journalists to put a narrative out ? Of course they do
and journalists know it.


Again, "spin" or "a narrative" would be "We don't agree with the allegations, and we think we can successfully refute them."

A "lie" would be "most of the alleged violations occurred under the previous regime."

As a journalist, I'm okay with the former, even if you are realistically expecting to get creamed. I am not okay with the latter, because it is unadulterated bullshite.
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