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re: Holding Defined
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:28 pm to AUbagman
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:28 pm to AUbagman
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I wouldn't doubt if it's an unpublicized agreement (a rule change without an actual rule change) to continue this "player safety" campaign by limiting the times the DE/LB can get a full contact hit on the ball carrier.
Could be part of it. It seems the holding rule has almost shifted to "if you tackle a guy or if it is blatant in space and everyone will replay it 100 times if I don't flag it".
I've noticed it all year in games in person and on TV. There is clearly something to it.
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:30 pm to BamaGradinTn
Yep. Malzahn, 4th and short on the goal line, let's kick a field goal. 
I was very disappointed with his play calling. Robinson was doing great getting chunks of yardage in the first half, so he totally abandons it in the 2nd. He's either dumb, stubborn, or both.
I was very disappointed with his play calling. Robinson was doing great getting chunks of yardage in the first half, so he totally abandons it in the 2nd. He's either dumb, stubborn, or both.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:34 pm to AUbagman
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I do wish there was some consistency on holds though
Seemed pretty consistent Saturday given neither team was flagged for holding.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:37 pm to AUbagman
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so he totally abandons it in the 2nd. He's either dumb, stubborn, or both.
I think it was a combination of 2 things
(a) we brought another guy down into the box
(b) Young got hurt
You could argue that will still Auburn's only path to victory with Johnson being so bad, but it was a lot tougher and even in the 1st half when you were moving it pretty well you couldn't score touchdowns.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:38 pm to Bamadiver
The SEC consistently doesn't call holding much anymore. Bama has the best DL in the country and leads the SEC with 40 sacks and I think opposing OL's have been called for holding against our sick DL maybe twice in 12 games? It's not something that favors Bama, has been across the board.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:38 pm to The Spleen
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Seemed pretty consistent Saturday given neither team was flagged for holding.
I wasn't referring to just that game. Next week, they'll be called differently by a different crew. It's just a strange lack of any kind of pattern.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:39 pm to allin2010
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:40 pm to whiskeyjohn
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Anyone can still frame pics from the game and see the exact same thing with Auburn.
I will say, some of those pictures reflect blatant holds. Sometimes still frames can be deceiving, but when the jersey is obviously being grabbed, that has nothing to do with the fact its a still frame.
I'm sure Auburn probably got away with some holds as well, but does that make it any better? Shouldn't we expect the SEC to officiate games correctly? I find these pics highly disturbing. It doesn't matter who the team is on either side, why do the SEC refs officiate so poorly these days?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:42 pm to Jagd Tiger
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he showed us his evidence,, whata you got, (besides a big fricking mouth) ?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:44 pm to DownSouthJukin
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DownSouthJukin
Nice sig
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:44 pm to BHMKyle
Simply grabbing a jersey is not always holding. O-linemen grab jerseys on every single play.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:47 pm to The Spleen
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Simply grabbing a jersey is not always holding.
Your average fan is an idiot and doesnt understand this. What IS funny is they never seem to notice when their Oline is also doing this.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:47 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
Evans being held outside the shoulders and Ragland being grabbed outside the shoulders.
Welp, that was tough.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:49 pm to BHMKyle
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Shouldn't we expect the SEC to officiate games correctly? I find these pics highly disturbing. It doesn't matter who the team is on either side, why do the SEC refs officiate so poorly these days?
Not sure if they still do this, but didn't officials used to meet with the coaches of both teams to explain how things would be called? And if both coaches agreed whether to be strict or liberal? Because I can pretty much guarantee that neither team being called for holding benefited AU more than UA.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Reuben is being wrapped up too. Can't see the Auburn player's arms, but Reuben's head, hips and legs are facing the runningback, but his torso and shoulders are still facing the offensive lineman.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 2:59 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Nice sig
Thanks
I was happy to get Bert's nuts off of my posts.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'd like to see how many holds were called against our opponents this year. I guarantee it isn't more than 10 or 15. And that is against the past defensive line in football and one of the best 5 pass rushes in football.
The answer is three:
Wisconsin 2nd quarter
Arkansas 2nd quarter declined
LSU 3rd quarter declined
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:02 pm to allin2010
Just thank God you're not a Gump.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:04 pm to 19
I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 3:09 pm to allin2010
You seem like a pussy.
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