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re: Herschel Walker: I should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:10 am to
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:10 am to
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He had more stroke than the Boz
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:25 am to
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contract. He could have made more in the NFL overall.


How so? NOBODY had guaranteed back then and he got that from the USFL.Why should he have stayed another year in college and risk career ending injury?

Boz had leverage because was a supplemental pick and it was also 6 years
after HW's and NFL salaries had gone up substantially by then because of the USFL and guaranteed contracts are still very rare.

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Herschel could have been the first pick and commanded whatever he wanted


You don't know what would have happened his senior year in college... NOBODY does and he was offered the richest contract in pro football history.

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He would have also been a commercial smash bringing in even more cash.
What?

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He would likely be in the Hall of Fame now


Nobody knows who he would've signed with had he stayed and played in the NFL.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:31 am to
I agree with him.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:56 am to
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Last SEC title for UTK: 1998
UGA has 3 since then

Is this part where you say SEC titles don't matter like you're an Alabama fan?


No, I would say SEC titles certainly matter but 05 and 02 are ancient history as you say and 2017 it doesn't really help that the National champ was an SEC team which beat you after you won the SEC. Definitely overshadows that one a bit
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 11:58 am to
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Boz had leverage because was a supplemental pick and it was also 6 years after HW's and NFL salaries had gone up substantially by then because of the USFL and guaranteed contracts are still very rare.


Very misleading. Guaranteed contracts are replaced by huge guaranteed signing bonuses..

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He would have also been a commercial smash bringing in even more cash. What?


He would have been the most marketable player in the NFL draft after his senior season. Period. The whole football world loved Walker. He was much more beloved than the Boz. It wasn't close. Instead he floated around to different teams instead of being the marquee guy.

As it stands, he MIGHT get into the PFHOF as a legend. It's on him. Too bad, he was a great player, likeable guy and charismatic. He went to Dallas and shared the backfield with Tony Dorsett. Walker was great but he could have done more without TD in the backfield his first season in the NFL. When he signed with the Cowboys he made more than Tony. As the first pick in the draft he could have gotten even more.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 12:01 pm to
If you have to ask or tell people you belong in the HOF, you probably don’t belong.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 4/21/20 at 12:12 pm to
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He's not getting in for the same reason Dale Murphy is not getting into the Baseball HOF. Good, but not great stats.

Just saw this.

Go frick yourself Awbie.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Very misleading. Guaranteed contracts are replaced by huge guaranteed signing bonuses


Not when he didn't come close to collecting the $11 million he signed for. Herschel got every penny of the $5 million.

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He would have been the most marketable player in the NFL draft after his senior season. Period.


You are bat shite insane. More marketable than Walter Peyton?Terry Bradshaw? Eric Dickerson? Dan Marino?

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He was much more beloved than the Boz
WTF does Boz have to do with this He was an over the top personality that created an alter ego and was gone after 3 years.HW was the complete opposite.


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As the first pick in the draft he could have gotten even more.


And he coulda had a career ending injury his senior year. He made the right call with or without getting in the HOF.

It was a no brainier.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15963 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:32 pm to
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Certainly odd to see UT fans claim SEC championships and playoff games don’t matter. Could understand Bama fans having that view, but not UT.


But completely understandable that a UGA wants to low the standards of accomplishment. National titles matter. Give 99% of the CFB world UGAs talent level and expectations and they have a title to show for it. UGA fans needed affirmative action (a 4 team playoff) to sniff a title since the Carter administration. Top 5 recruiting classes year after year for a generation and still cant get it done.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:23 pm to
Yet another reason Bo > Herschel
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22669 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:45 pm to
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AFL stats are included and it's not call the NFL HOF,it's called the Pro Football HOF.



Are you saying AFL as in old school AFL or Arena Football?

If it's old school, then it's because the AFL and the NFL merged together. If Arena, I don't believe you.

Pro Football = NFL. The USFL and other leagues that have popped up are a joke without the same level of competition.



This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 3:45 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Are you saying AFL as in old school


Old AFL

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then it's because the AFL and the NFL merged togethe


No shite,they merged?

Has nothing to do with your original statement though.
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it's not the same thing.


Also,Warren Moon's CFL stats along with the USFL stats from Steve Young,Jim Kelly and Reggie White are included with their display.The All American Football stats and records are also included in the HOF.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:09 pm to
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And UGA lost the games that mattered, just like every year. Big whoop


Remind us the last time Tennessee played in a game that mattered?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:11 pm to
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and 2017 it doesn't really help that the National champ was an SEC team which beat you after you won the SEC. Definitely overshadows that one a bit


Playing for the National Championship and getting beat in OT is bad, now?
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4657 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:05 pm to
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You are bat shite insane. More marketable than Walter Peyton?Terry Bradshaw? Eric Dickerson? Dan Marino?


You don't have a clue how this works.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 5:57 pm to
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You don't have a clue how this works


I know exactly how it works and you are utterly clueless.

So you're REALLY trying to tell me a unassuming, rookie #1 draft pick woulda made more endorsement money in the early 80's than Joe Montana,Dan Marino or Walter Peyton there's nothing more to be said

BTW,I was around back then and was in school with HW and also saw the explosion of the NFL in the 80's.You're not even close.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:14 pm to
If Edgerrin James is in the HOF.

Herschel should be in as well
Posted by goodgrin
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2003
5899 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 7:19 pm to
I'm a big Herschel Walker fan. He deserves serious consideration for the Pro Football HOF.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32867 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:25 pm to
He has a good point. The man produced as an elite all purpose skill player.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30106 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:59 am to
He's right
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