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here's my take on bad officiating
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:16 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:16 am
sports gambling always leads to corruption of officiating. it's the easiest way to affect the outcome. It's always in big games, because they draw the most money.
the bookies don't care who wins or loses, only about the betting distribution. they make 10% from the winners, so if the winners and losers are evenly divided, they make a tidy profit. However, if the betting gets lopsided, then a "wrong" outcome can be devastating.
No one is going to investigate or release the figures on how the betting line is holding up. it moves up and down to move the betting, but last week betting can skew the numbers.
so it's always in big games like alabama/tennessee penn state/ohio state where the officiating sucks and favors one side. it's not necessarily a bias towards a team, but towards how the betting is going.
LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama, but then there are cleanly called games. teams like alabama and ohio state, the perennial winners, seem to get more advantages, but I would bet it's because of skewed betting lines.
at any rate, it sucks, but it will never go away unless big time betting is banned.
the bookies don't care who wins or loses, only about the betting distribution. they make 10% from the winners, so if the winners and losers are evenly divided, they make a tidy profit. However, if the betting gets lopsided, then a "wrong" outcome can be devastating.
No one is going to investigate or release the figures on how the betting line is holding up. it moves up and down to move the betting, but last week betting can skew the numbers.
so it's always in big games like alabama/tennessee penn state/ohio state where the officiating sucks and favors one side. it's not necessarily a bias towards a team, but towards how the betting is going.
LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama, but then there are cleanly called games. teams like alabama and ohio state, the perennial winners, seem to get more advantages, but I would bet it's because of skewed betting lines.
at any rate, it sucks, but it will never go away unless big time betting is banned.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:20 am to stephendomalley
Anyone got the numbers on where the public was at with the Bama vs Tennessee game saturday? I would be shocked if the public was heavy on Bama laying 9 this year vs Tennessee.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:23 am to stephendomalley
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so it's always in big games like alabama/tennessee penn state/ohio state where the officiating sucks and favors one side.
It wasn't one sided.
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama,
No they don't.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:27 am to BrianFantana
Officiating is not an easy job especially when you have cameras on documenting every call you make
Plus these guys aren't full time officials, they have other livelihoods
I've always been on the side of let them play and it's a much better product to watch
Call the obvious penalties on both sides and let the players decide things on the field
It's no different watching NFL on sundays, they call so many ticky tack plays it takes away from the flow of the game
The best thing officiating did is take away the muggings DB's used to get away with and giving the advantages to the offense
Plus these guys aren't full time officials, they have other livelihoods
I've always been on the side of let them play and it's a much better product to watch
Call the obvious penalties on both sides and let the players decide things on the field
It's no different watching NFL on sundays, they call so many ticky tack plays it takes away from the flow of the game
The best thing officiating did is take away the muggings DB's used to get away with and giving the advantages to the offense
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:32 am to stephendomalley
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama
So when you are historically an inferior program that loses 3 out of 4 of your Super Bowls it feels like a screwing.
Alabama has no frame of reference for comparison.
Thanks for explaining that.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:41 am to stephendomalley
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama,
And yet they somehow managed to give LSU that interception of Marquis Maze's pass at the goal line in 2011. And a block in the back by Josh Chapman on Mark Barron's interception return in the same game.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:44 am to stephendomalley
I dont think it’s pervasive. But, anybody who assumes officials are never on the take has their head in the sand. Big money lines esp.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:58 am to stephendomalley
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama
Never change LSU fans.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:11 am to stephendomalley
Football is very hard to officiate. The NFL has totally fricked up not creating an organization that goes all the way down to the pee-wee level or at least Jr High. Refs should hold coaches accountable even down at that age. Teach kids correctly, officiate to well defined rules from day one.
Coaches jobs are to win. They teach holding, they teach pass interference…if you don’t get caught it didn’t happen and it helps you win. Seeing tackles out of bounds in Jr high is insane…refs should be teachers out there…walking straight up to a coach saying if I see that one more time, in any game this season, you’re out.
Refs should be the pillars of the game, but they’re jokes at every level. It’s the NFL’s fault they suck. Period.
Coaches jobs are to win. They teach holding, they teach pass interference…if you don’t get caught it didn’t happen and it helps you win. Seeing tackles out of bounds in Jr high is insane…refs should be teachers out there…walking straight up to a coach saying if I see that one more time, in any game this season, you’re out.
Refs should be the pillars of the game, but they’re jokes at every level. It’s the NFL’s fault they suck. Period.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:14 am to stephendomalley
Two weeks to build up to these types of excuses. Pace yourself.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:18 am to stephendomalley
My take is every fanbase needs to grow a ball sack and stop whining when they get beat. The last time UGA got beat (Bama SEC championship game, 2021), we had injuries and bad calls againt us. No excuses from me or any UGA fan I knew, or at least none that hasn't been unofficially diagnosed with chronic vaginosis.
Just quit with the excuses and admit you got beat by a better team! Of course, if everyone followed that advice and started doing that, this SEC rant forum would dry up and close down a few days later, so...
Just quit with the excuses and admit you got beat by a better team! Of course, if everyone followed that advice and started doing that, this SEC rant forum would dry up and close down a few days later, so...
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:20 am to nicholastiger
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The best thing officiating did is take away the muggings DB's used to get away with and giving the advantages to the offense
Saints vs Rams playoff fiasco says hello.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:21 am to nicholastiger
Humans are too prone to corruption and errors.
We need to move to an AI system. The technology is there now.
They would never do that for obvious reasons though.
We need to move to an AI system. The technology is there now.
They would never do that for obvious reasons though.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:22 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:22 am to stephendomalley
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here's my take on bad officiating
Thank GOD.
We have been waiting for almost two days. The anticipation has been overwhelming me.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:23 am to Darindawg
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My take is every fanbase needs to grow a ball sack and stop whining when they get beat.
Post of the year nominee right there
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:31 am to stephendomalley
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama, but then there are cleanly called games.
LSU screwed
2008,2009, 2011 bowl game, 2012-2018, 2020-2021
Cleanly called games
2010, 2011 regular season, 2019, 2022
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:35 am to BamaGradinTn
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And yet they somehow managed to give LSU that interception of Marquis Maze's pass at the goal line in 2011. And a block in the back by Josh Chapman on Mark Barron's interception return in the same game.
Now do Patrick Peterson
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:53 am to Darindawg
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The last time UGA got beat (Bama SEC championship game, 2020),
Not so fast my friend. 2021.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:29 am to RECConspiracy
Eh, I meant 2021, thanks for pointing that out...they all start to run together when you get my age... 
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:48 am to stephendomalley
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LSU gets screwed a lot vs alabama, but then there are cleanly called games.
It's been six years since LSU drew more flags in a game vs Bama... six years.
And I've yet to see LSU get screwed worse on a questionable call than the simultaneous catch which was ruled an INT, despite simultaneous catches always belonging to the receiver or my favorite, literally pushing a Bama receiver down in the endzone, intercepting the ball and not getting flagged for it.
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teams like alabama and ohio state, the perennial winners, seem to get more advantages, but I would bet it's because of skewed betting lines.
Alabama has consistently been one of the most penalized teams in the conference (and country) while our opponents are consistently among the LEAST penalized against us. We've had multiple TDs called back this year over petty flags. A UT player haymakered one of our DOWNED players right in front of a ref that wasn't called. Multiple missed holding and PI calls. And some of you need to read the NCAA rulebook on what an Invalid Catch is. Also, for those bitching about the "clap" penalty, #24 for Tennessee last season forced our line to jump for clapping and wasn't flagged for it... yet we were of course.
The fact that last year's game sparked zero outrage over what was the most egregious one sided officiating one has ever seen in a football game is why no one outside of the states of Tennessee and Louisiana are taking your selective outrage seriously.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 11:53 am
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