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re: Here it is fellas you make the call.

Posted on 12/31/21 at 2:31 am to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15392 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 2:31 am to
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Bama fans are melting about this. Sad little Bunch
Laughing at the misery of the stinking Vols I’d hardly call melting.

High quality entertainment I say. I’m waiting for the fan reactions on YouTube so I can break out the popcorn
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23118 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 2:33 am to
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I am SEC homer


A fan of SEC university. Cool
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 3:36 am to
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Knees not down



You do realize many plays are stopped without knees touching the ground right? Please tell me you've watched at least one quarter of football in your life and know this...

There's running out of bounds. There's incomplete passes. Hell there's even this thing called "forward progress stopped".
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25624 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 3:44 am to
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His knees never touched the ground BEFORE the ball crossed the plain. THAT is 6 points.
Tenn got fricked


You are not considering forward progress.

If he had stretched out while falling and the ball crossed the plane it would have been a TD, as it was it is clear in the replay his forward momentum was stopped even while his teammate was tugging on him. This occurred before he stretched out. He was never down by contact with the ground but that isn't required.

People are complaining about the whistle but the whistle doesn't stop the play it is the indication that the ref has made a decision the play ended. It technically ALWAYS comes after the decision is made.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6868 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 4:15 am to
You never see a play at the goal line stopped that quickly. Official made a mistake.
Posted by smh4wg
Member since May 2021
777 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 5:19 am to
That's a touchdown.

Progress wasn't stopped anywhere near long enough for a whistle. That's why there never was one.

Tenner got prison raped.

This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 5:20 am
Posted by jctiger73
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
254 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 6:59 am to
While the whistle can cause the ball to become dead, by rule, the ball is dead when the runner's forward motion is stopped. The whistle then signals that the ball is dead.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 7:21 am to
He wasn't drug into the endzone. 88 had his shoulder pad. The runner placed his arm and ball across the goal line not 88. The whistle blew and then the ref trotted onto the field. It's literally right there on video.

We need to quit referring to a foul that wasn't called.

The only debate is was his forward progress stopped. We obviously all have our own opinions on this.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 7:24 am to
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People are complaining about the whistle but the whistle doesn't stop the play it is the indication that the ref has made a decision the play ended. It technically ALWAYS comes after the decision is made.


Whistles are in the refs mouth. As soon as the ref decides the play is over he blows the whistle. He doesn't decide the play is over then put the whistle in his mouth.

You are basically taught since rec football to play until you hear the whistle. Everyone followed that except the ref.
This post was edited on 12/31/21 at 7:51 am
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64514 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 7:38 am to
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He wasn't drug into the endzone.


There’s a hell of a pic that was posted yesterday of the Tennessee lineman grabbing the runner by the upper arm and pulling.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26638 posts
Posted on 12/31/21 at 7:50 am to
Forward progress was stopped, but no whistle. Play till the whistle blows.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17801 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 12:10 am to
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Go see an eye Dr lol. Ball crossed the plain. Knees not down





Dumb dumb forward progress was called before he crossed the goal line what part of that dont you understand
Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 1:19 pm to
The first time I saw It I thought it was a HORRIBLE call, but watching it again, I think it’s the right call. Why? Looking at the replay, the ball carrier was completely stopped, and was basically on the ground, and a Tennessee player grabbed his jersey, and started pulling him towards the endzone, and eventually pulled his body close enough for him to stretch out.

I mean I guess there’s a case for it either way, but the ball carrier didn’t make it into the endzone. He was stuffed, and stopped, and then a fellow teammate grabbed his jersey and slowly pulled him towards the endzone. It’s not a clean play either way
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6485 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:19 pm to
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Whistles are in the refs mouth. As soon as the ref decides the play is over he blows the whistle. He doesn't decide the play is over then put the whistle in his mouth.

You are basically taught since rec football to play until you hear the whistle. Everyone followed that except the ref.


You cannot be more wrong on all counts. 20 years of officiating here invitations to evaluations by the SEC and the ACC.

You are taught from day one to hold your whistle in your hand. Put that in your mouth and get bumped ...spit out teeth for the rest of the night.

Whistles fall out of your mouth, the pea inside pops out, you don't clamp down hard enough and spit the whistle out. It happens all the time .....But one thing is for certain.

A live ball is live until it is dead. And guess what? There isn't word one in that statement that says a whistle must blow or a signal given.

The call is wrong period. Running backs come to a stop constantly and whistles don't blow. They stop from violent hits, gain control and dig again.

The whistles you hear are mirror whistles. The LJ has already blown his whistle. The act of leaving the pylon tells those that know, the ball is dead. If he's confident he's blowing again and again during his signal overhead to stop.

#88 pulling ... never called pulling, pushing they are ignored.

Laying on the defender .....how many times do you see that in an open field? No knee, no forearm, no body part touches the ground ...try again, he's not down.

You have to know the mechanic to know when he makes the judgment that the runner is down.

Prior to the snap. Both the Head Linesman and in this case the Line Judge are located off the field in no man's land. That is a six foot band around the field.

Field and Side Judge are the pylon in the back of the endzone along with the Back Judge.

Within the seven yard line going in. The first step by the Line Judge and Head Linesman is to the goal line. In this case two steps .... Thou Shalt not leave the pylon until the ball is dead or a score is made.

This is referred to as officiating out ....He has the Goal Line!

The LJ is still at the pylon, when he decides the forward progress is stopped. Leaving the pylon, he blows his whistle while closing toward his mark and drifts toward the two yard line, while signaling the ball is dead ....

Again ..in this case.. the ball is dead before he leaves the pylon! The ball is dead before the whistle sounds, the ball is dead before the signal given. So, in micro seconds ...

Dead Ball

Gap (Human reaction time)

Whistle

Gap (Human reaction time

Signal.

There are times in a game where the runner goes down and the only whistle you hear is well away from the ball because those players don't realize the ball is dead.

The only thing questioned ....was he down or not?
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18201 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:25 pm to
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pulling the ball carrier illegal

This

Had it been called a TD, the Rant narrative and non-Aggie quits threads would be talking about that aspect. Or, maybe not, UTk is irrelevant
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2631 posts
Posted on 1/1/22 at 2:27 pm to
not a TD. he was clearly stopped.
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