re: Herbstreit on HUNH: "Look for more fake injuries"

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It's not hard to find a buncha fast guys. It's not hard to simply get them the ball as fast as possible

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I dont think you get what the HUNH is

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Teams the run the HUNH are very systemy(that's not a word) and can just plug guys in a go.

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I know bama can't just plug the next guy in. :rollseyes:

You are stretching simply because you are a bama fan looking for a reason other than rivalry to explain your dislike for the system.

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Explain it to me

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Thatsa gonna take awhile.

I don't mind teams with the HUNH offense. If that's what they want to do that's fine. Defenses will learn to adjust eventually. I do have one problem. Refs. I have seen more than a few Oregon games where the refs were sprinting around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to get the ball in play fast enough for the offense. I do have a problem with that. They should go the same pace as if it were two ball control teams playing each other. The refs have the ability to control their own pace but that doesn't always happen, for whatever reason.

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I don't mean work as in how much a guy runs in a damn day. It's harder to build a team like Alabama than it is to build some of these teams who run the HUNH. Idk how anyone can disagree.

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HUNH still needs a solid LT. HUNH team still needs solid OL to protect QB. Gus's HUNH which is a power offense still needs all the same power elements as bama's. The difference is we snap the ball quicker and use more misdirection. I think u just want to think that everything bama does is superior. More than scheme execution matters. That is why bama has been so successful. They have executed their scheme consistently well

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I don't feel like I'm stretching.

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too much bama to see it I guess.

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When every single QB a HUNH/read option/whatever else there is team has succeeds you've gotta think it's just the system and it's not hard to get those up and running.

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Could you explain what you are saying here? It sounds like you are saying Alabama has built a ridiculous program so they can do it, but HNHU teams can't have built a good program so it is the system.

Are you trying to differentiate between a process and a system?

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I can't disagree with him. It's the only way to off-set the pace.

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Not the only way. The other way to slow that shite down is to keep that HUNH offense on the bench by running an offense that eats up the clock.

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I have seen more than a few Oregon games where the refs were sprinting around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to get the ball in play fast enough for the offense. I do have a problem with that. They should go the same pace as if it were two ball control teams playing each other.

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I agree. refs shouldn't change the way they do there jobs one way the other. They shouldn't speed up to accommodate anyone nor slow down.

They should get the ball spotted accurately and efficiently.

I haven't seen the issue you are referring to, but if it exists, I agree with you.

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The HUNH is a gimmick

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It's just using the rules of the game to the offense's advantage.

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I wonder why the WAC wasn't more popular to some of y'all?

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I always found WAC games entertaining.

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The HUNH is a gimmick, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. It's not out-scheming the other guy. It's just using the rules of the game to the offense's advantage.

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Call it what you will. The way you define gimmick here sounds a lot like a scheme to me.

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the HUNH has a stigma that teams only used it because they were at a talent disadvantage, much like the spread offenses at their infancy.

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I think that is largely how it started. Most teams that have superior talent aren't going to change the way they do things because they are already winning with superior talent. It doesn't mean that it isn't a viable (and possibly superior) offensive scheme.

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As it becomes more uilized, it will gain acceptance.

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I think we are pretty much already there. The Patriots and other NFL teams have been using it and I suspect the umber of teams that do will grow.

I think most teams will adopt elements of the scheme and be more strategic about when and how often to use it than some that use it all the time though.