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re: Henry Ruggs is facing 26 years in prison.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Henry Ruggs intentionally got behind the wheel and engaged in a behavior that he knew could kill someone.
But he didn’t maliciously & deliberately kill someone. 2nd degree murder carries a 25 year term in Nevada.
Yes. And DUI involving death in Nevada is 2-20. What's your point? I never said he should be charged with murder.
Also, remember he's charged with a second crime. It's up to the judge to decide if the sentences are consecutive or not.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:21 pm
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Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:22 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Locking him up for 26 years while the sex trafficker is out in 5 doesn’t really benefit society or provide closure for the tragedy.
I don't disagree with that at all. I'm all for 25 to life imprisonment for sex trafficking, without parole.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:23 pm to TheBiggestBrother
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Suppose it was your mom that he killed. Would 26 years be enough time for you?
Someone rotting their life away in prison wouldn't bring my mom back.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
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What's your point? I never said he should be charged with murder.
OP’s topic of Ruggs getting 26 years if convicted on all counts. OP’s assertion that 26 years isn’t enough time was what I was taking issue with.
ETA: No problem with discussing increasing sentences across the board for violent crimes, but with the current structure - comparative sentencing should matter, IMO.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:25 pm to Nitro Express
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Someone rotting their life away in prison wouldn't bring my mom back.
It does however prevent reoffending (not that I think he should get that long)
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Locking him up for 26 years while the sex trafficker is out in 5 doesn’t really benefit society or provide closure for the tragedy.
So why not argue the sex trafficker should go to prison longer?
Not that Ruggs get out in less than 25 years.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:26 pm to Jrv2damac
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It does however prevent reoffending (not that I think he should get that long)
Five years would likely do the same.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:57 pm to TheBiggestBrother
He should spend 156 years in prison.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 11:59 pm to tigerbait2010
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get a grip. it's more than enough time
The person was burned alive. Very reasonable to wonder if that is enough time.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:05 am to Tuscaloosa
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I am absolutely not defending him or his actions, and I get that it’s an emotionally charged tragedy, but perspective is important. Locking him up for 26 years while the sex trafficker is out in 5 doesn’t really benefit society or provide closure for the tragedy.
sex traffickers should be executed; no need for jail time; especially if we are talking about children
and I agree, 26 years is too long
he should get 15 and serve 10
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:11 am to dcbl
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he should get 15 and serve 10
Girl lost her entire life at 23 in the most tragic way. He gets out at 32.
Doesn’t seem fair. Don’t give a damn if he meant to. He is absolutely responsible for his negligence and recklessness. 156 mph with that BAC. Absolutely no excuse. I hope he gets the max. Maybe it will deter some people and create some very little good.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 12:12 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:11 am to tigerbait2010
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get a grip. it's more than enough time.
Ask the family of the deceased.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:25 am to MacMan10
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Maybe it will deter some people and create some very little good.
All professional athletes (who probably have a tendency to make more bad decisions than the general population) will be watching to see what happens to Ruggs. The legal system doesn’t need to cut him any slack. Maybe the next dumbass will think twice before drinking and driving recklessly.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:33 am to Globetrotter747
Absolutely. This is not just DUI accident trying to get home. He had twice the legal limit driving 156. Someone was going to die that night. So sorry for Tina Tintor.
And I hate repeating it but her family knows she was screaming as she was burned alive. Just so sad man.
And I hate repeating it but her family knows she was screaming as she was burned alive. Just so sad man.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 12:53 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:52 am to MacMan10
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When Hart arrived at the crash site, according to the arrest report, he heard screams coming from the RAV4. The driver was still alive, he told police, but she was pinned inside the SUV. None of the bystanders could pull her out.
Eventually, they had to back away as smoke and heat from flames choked the RAV4. Tintor and her dog died in the SUV, authorities said. She was 23.
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This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 12:53 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:51 am to TheBiggestBrother
13 or so years ago the wife of a prominent Jackson, MS old money guy killed two med students in a similar crash - she was drunk and speeding. Can’t remember her sentence, but I think she served two years.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:54 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:You're a sick dude.
hat seems about right. Give Ruggs a decade.
a 23 year old girl BURNED TO DEATH , screaming for help, wedged in a car with her burning dog. THE most horrifying way to die. And you want to give him what a drug dealer gets. My GOD, Man.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:26 am to Tuscaloosa
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People get less for 2nd degree murder. In some states they get less for rape. Count me out of the crowd that believes an awful decision that resulted in tragedy is the same as someone who intentionally ends someone else’s life or sexually assaults them.
It also doesnt bring anyone back. No doubt I would want the death penalty if it had been my loved one, but it doesn't change anything. No sense in wasting tax money housing him forever when he still could do something down the road. Doesn't mean it wasn't a terrible, terrible decision by him. He'll have to live with that forever too. It's just a terrible situation from top to bottom.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:04 am to Jack Ruby
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There's no way he should get 28 yrs. That's insane
He should do 20 years. His actions led to unintentional murder.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 4:05 am
Posted on 11/4/21 at 4:17 am to tigerbait2010
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get a grip. it's more than enough time.
That's your opinion.
If that's the sentence, how much of it will he actually serve?
It was a homicide of a completely innocent life, not an accident. Drunk and excessively speeding into anothers car is no different than a maniac shooting into a crowd at Mardi gras or a football game in my opinion.
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