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re: Henry now Vegas favorite for Heisman
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:23 pm to aspiclark
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:23 pm to aspiclark
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they absolutely will. that's why you're seeing him in 4th place on lists like the SI one posted above. no one gives a shite about his numbers against shitty teams if he's gonna shite the bed when it matters most. he's a great player but what happened Saturday is now and forever part of his legacy as an LSU great.
Whatever you say man. It's pretty clear you don't have a very firm grasp on reality in this situation.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 2:24 pm
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:24 pm to RB10
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This is the thing though, they won't remember it if he shows it was the exception, not the rule.
Except to many of the voters like on the west coast and other places outside of the SEC country vote based on what they see and read. History has shown they do not watch every game and many will only watch 1 or 2 games outside their area and this is where it is unfair because the voters may watch only see LF play a few times and now one game may very well hurt.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:24 pm to JuiceTerry
I think the fact that LF gets to play with a top SEC QB and best SEC OL while Henry has to play with a bottom feeding QB and poor OL...is being overlooked.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:25 pm to aspiclark
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it's not just me.
There are plenty of idiots in the world, unfortunately.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:25 pm to Aman
As he should. LF is the best player in college football this year and he has a real chance to win next year as well. I like Henry but any Bama fan would be lying if they say they wouldn't trade Henry for Fournette. Hell....I think I would trade any one player Bama has for LF. He is that good.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:26 pm to boogiewoogie1978
to bad we have an idiot that will try to run it 50 times for 80 yards and not pass it 25 times for 420
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:26 pm to TideWarrior
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Except to many of the voters like on the west coast and other places outside of the SEC country vote based on what they see and read. History has shown they do not watch every game and many will only watch 1 or 2 games outside their area and this is where it is unfair because the voters may watch only see LF play a few times and now one game may very well hurt.
With today's technology voters can see whatever they want when it comes to these players.
This isn't the 90's where access was limited to watching the game live.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:26 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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LSU may throw for 500 but they will not run on us.
Bama struggled and so will LSU.
to bad we have an idiot that will try to run it 50 times for 80 yards and not pass it 25 times for 420
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:28 pm to RB10
no one is disputing that m but you're the one accusing me of not having a handle on reality. those idiots vote. that is reality.
fournette's personal failure against bama will define his season to many voters, regardless of what numbers he puts up down the stretch. if you don't believe that, maybe it's you who is ignoring reality,
fournette's personal failure against bama will define his season to many voters, regardless of what numbers he puts up down the stretch. if you don't believe that, maybe it's you who is ignoring reality,
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:32 pm to RB10
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With today's technology voters can see whatever they want when it comes to these players.
Except either last year or the year before last many of the voters were asked and they said no way they can watch all the games. They try and pick a few when they can. Most do not even pay attention until November when they were asked. So yes the technology is here if they want to use but many are not. Why it is not fair. It would be better done to do it like the CFB committee and bring them all together and discuss it.
In the end LF is the best player in the country but not playing on December 5th may hurt his chances in front of the voters. Again Saturday opened the door and may now allow bias to take precedence in the end when voters vote without seeing the whole body of work for each contender.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:32 pm to aspiclark
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fournette's personal failure against bama will define his season to many voters, regardless of what numbers he puts up down the stretch. if you don't believe that, maybe it's you who is ignoring reality,
No, it's still clearly you.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:32 pm to genro
If Henry won it LSU would melt so hard
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:34 pm to RB10
ok fine, you're right man. heisman voters only care about stats and ignore larger narratives like sucking arse in the biggest game of the year. you get it.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:37 pm to TideWarrior
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Why it is not fair. It would be better done to do it like the CFB committee and bring them all together and discuss it.
The only thing that is not fair in this whole thing is Dak Prescott being left off at this point.
What's funny is if MSU manages to upset Bama and Dak has a good game he will be vaulted into the conversation by the media and the oddsmakers. It just illustrates the ridiculous kneejerk reactions that people have when it comes to this stuff.
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In the end LF is the best player in the country but not playing on December 5th may hurt his chances in front of the voters. Again Saturday opened the door and may now allow bias to take precedence in the end with voters vote without seeing the whole body of work for each contender.
And on the flipside of that it could hurt Henry to have a poor game in the SECCG. People seem to be expecting him to repeat his performance from Saturday for the remainder of the season. Fact is, that was the outlier on the season. He's much more likely to have 125-150 yards and 1-2 TDs than he is to have 200+ and 3 TDs.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:38 pm to RB10
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He's much more likely to have 125-150 yards and 1-2 TDs than he is to have 200+ and 3 TDs.
Only because his OC is deranged.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:38 pm to aspiclark
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ok fine, you're right man. heisman voters only care about stats and ignore larger narratives like sucking arse in the biggest game of the year. you get it.
You still don't get it, do you?
They don't ignore it, but they don't base their entire decision on one game. I'm really not sure how I can convey that in a way that makes it more clear to you.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:39 pm to Master of Sinanju
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Only because his OC is deranged.
We can all agree on that. Though, Kiffin has been giving Henry the rock more in the last 5 games.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 2:40 pm
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