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re: Heard a NIL lawyer on radio yesterday
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:04 am to NFLSU
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:04 am to NFLSU
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No HS football player is making an NFL roster without going to college.
Eric Swan was ruled acedenicly ineligible to play in college. He never played a minute of a college sport and was a frist round draft pick, number 6th over all and 2 time pro-bowler.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:00 am to dallastiger55
Maurice Clarett tried to sue the NFL over the three year rule and eventually lost on the NFL's appeal. It'll be a hard win for Jeremiah.
NCAA would have nothing to do with it. Clarett at first won his case, but then lost. And yes, despite what someone in here says, the ruling was overruled on appeal by a superior court the first time.
NCAA would have nothing to do with it. Clarett at first won his case, but then lost. And yes, despite what someone in here says, the ruling was overruled on appeal by a superior court the first time.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 7:25 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:03 am to dallastiger55
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He also said Jeremiah Smiths team has hired a lawyer to challenge the 3 year rule to go to the NFL and he expects that to go away after he wins his case. Said it’s a slam dunk because the NCAA doesn’t have the balls to challenge
I think whatever lawyer was talking lost all credibility. The three year rule is an NFL rule, not an NCAA rule.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:10 am to tBrand
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Oklahoma was ahead of the curve in becoming a softball school
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:28 am to logjamming
Yeah, the NCAA couldn't force someone to stay in college. Any lawyer would know that.
NFL wants that rule because having kids enter the draft out of high school of after one year of college would make the draft much harder to get right.
For every Jeremiah Smith, Brocke Bowers type that are ready from the jump and you have extreme confidence in, there would be 20 others entering under sized with great talent that you'd have no clue how they'd develop.
NFL wants that rule because having kids enter the draft out of high school of after one year of college would make the draft much harder to get right.
For every Jeremiah Smith, Brocke Bowers type that are ready from the jump and you have extreme confidence in, there would be 20 others entering under sized with great talent that you'd have no clue how they'd develop.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:36 am to Simple Solution
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The last true CFB champion was 2020 Alabama.
2019 LSU. The 2020 CFB season was an absolute joke.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:44 am to Simple Solution
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The last true CFB champion was 2020 Alabama.
The last true CFB champion was 2019 LSU, because that was the last year the Tigahs won it.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:47 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Because pro leagues are made up of professional organizations whose only concern is fielding and operating a team, and those teams are made up of professional athletes who are only there to play their sport. College sports, on the other hand, are made up of universities whose true concern (in theory at least) is educating their student bodies and who field athletics teams only as voluntary student activities, and those teams are made up of athletes who are (also in theory) otherwise regular students at the school and are there (again, in theory) primarily to receive a college education. That key difference is why the courts have ruled that restrictions that apply only to student athletes are unfair and a restraint of trade. If an engineering student at one school does really well and manages to snare a scholarship from a more prestigious school, there is nothing to prevent them from transferring whenever they wish. Why should athletics scholarships be treated differently?
This is why 'principles' in themselves screw everything up. You just can't look at everything the same way (this one's for you, libertarians)
What would really be interesting is having the courts look at 'eligibility' instead. They want to treat athletics as they would an extracurricular then why would anyone be ineligible just because they played in the NFL? If Deborah Voigt, one of the world's premier opera singers, suddenly decided to go back to college and join the choir, there'd be nothing stopping her. But if Julio Jones wanted to come back and join the football team, that's not allowed. By their own logic, we must now allow retired and failed NFL players back onto college teams so long as they're enrolled.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:51 am to GobyGator
quote:Eric - that you?
Eric Swan was ruled acedenicly ineligible to play in college.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:55 am to John Milner
I doubt it. Why would the NFL owners want the expense?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:18 am to dallastiger55
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Said it’s a slam dunk because the NCAA doesn’t have the balls to challenge
I'm pretty sure it's the nfl's rule. They're the ones that are getting off untouched after ruining college football
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:57 am to Simple Solution
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The last true CFB champion was 2020 Alabama. NIL has tainted the sport since then.
The 2021 UGA team were all on roster prior to NIL taking effect, making that the last true CFB champ.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:00 am to IT_Dawg
The 3 year rule is an NFL rule to work for the NFL.
I don’t think that can be changed.
If the NFL, a company decides and agrees with its union that it doesn’t want anyone under 21 as an employee, no one can do anything about that.
I don’t think that can be changed.
If the NFL, a company decides and agrees with its union that it doesn’t want anyone under 21 as an employee, no one can do anything about that.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:27 am to dallastiger55
There will probably never again be a legitimate national champion in football
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:31 pm to dallastiger55
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He also said Jeremiah Smiths team has hired a lawyer to challenge the 3 year rule to go to the NFL and he expects that to go away after he wins his case. Said it’s a slam dunk because the NCAA doesn’t have the balls to challenge
The 3 yr rule is as much a NFL rule as it is a NCAA rule. NCAA has no jurisdiction over a player leaving college. I do believe it is somewhat of an agreement with the NFL and the NCAA. Good luck suing the NFL… they have Anti-trust exemption from Congress.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:32 pm to GetmorewithLes
No the only league with an antitrust exemption is MLB.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:45 pm to koreandawg
The details of Clarett’s case:
1. A court ruled that the NFL rule in question violated antitrust law.
2. An appeals court ruled that the lower court wrongly applied antitrust law, that the rule was not subject to antitrust law but to labor law, and was legal under labor law.
3. The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal, so it has never actually issued an official, definitive final ruling on the case.
That court fight took place 20 years ago. There certainly is a chance precedent would hold.
But IMO it would be a mistake to say with metaphysical certainty that it is guaranteed to hold. It’s a different environment, different judges in place and I will point out again that Brett Kavanaugh, no leftist, in his opinion in NCAA vs. Alston seemed to be salivating over the idea of giving college athletes more freedoms/clout. And we’ve seen decisions changed.
1. A court ruled that the NFL rule in question violated antitrust law.
2. An appeals court ruled that the lower court wrongly applied antitrust law, that the rule was not subject to antitrust law but to labor law, and was legal under labor law.
3. The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal, so it has never actually issued an official, definitive final ruling on the case.
That court fight took place 20 years ago. There certainly is a chance precedent would hold.
But IMO it would be a mistake to say with metaphysical certainty that it is guaranteed to hold. It’s a different environment, different judges in place and I will point out again that Brett Kavanaugh, no leftist, in his opinion in NCAA vs. Alston seemed to be salivating over the idea of giving college athletes more freedoms/clout. And we’ve seen decisions changed.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 5:45 pm to InkStainedWretch
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InkStainedWretch
Don't know if it was you or who, but someone in here said a superior court wouldn't overturn it if he won the initial case, believing he would.
My point was that's already happened.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:17 pm to koreandawg
Wasn’t me, that was my first comment in this thread.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:23 pm to dallastiger55
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It’s just going to be old school where the schools shares revenue and boosters pay behind the scenes.
You would have to be a fool to think this wouldn't happen.
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He also said Jeremiah Smiths team has hired a lawyer to challenge the 3 year rule to go to the NFL and he expects that to go away after he wins his case. Said it’s a slam dunk because the NCAA doesn’t have the balls to challenge
This lawyer is retarded. That is a NFL rule and has nothing to do with the NCAA. The courts cannot dictate a private company's rules or qualifications to be employed by them. If this was the case then someone would have challenged the MLB rule of being 21 years old to be eligible for the draft if a player has enrolled in college.
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