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geauxnavybeatbama
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re: Haynes King Aggie Starter
what about a 7 loss Kent St. team


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Look, I'm not saying King is gonna be Burrow. He almost certainly will not. I'm just saying that discounting the idea that he might be good from his first game is just really, really stupid - for at least two reasons.

First, because many great QBs have had bad or pedestrian first games. Second, because King's first game was actually pretty good, if you will watch it rather than merely parrot one stat from the game.


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If King wins this year, I think Max stays this season and grad transfers when he can.



Unless they are going to a bad non P5 or Div II team, any QB who transfers at this point in the season is getting some really bad advice. With injuries, other potential transfers, or just bad play by the starter, their chance of getting playing time at their current school is much better.


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First, because many great QBs have had bad or pedestrian first games. 


I disagree with this part.

Most college quarterbacks who are at least decent usually play "well" if they're starting their first game vs a true cupcake.


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I watched him recently. He's not bad and it was first game jitters maybe. He has happy feet though.


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I watched him recently. He's not bad and it was first game jitters maybe. He has happy feet though.


Totally agree. Definitely had work to do. Happy feet, and sailing a ball or two.

But arm looked good, speed was noticeable, and wasn’t afraid to sling it.


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He scares me. True fish Conner Weigman is the future star- just don't know if Jimbo will trust him. In fact, I'm sure he wont.


Jimbo would be throwing the year away if he went w/a true freshman. That's something you do in your first couple of years when you have enough good will to suffer through the learning pains. By year 5 if you are starting a true freshman something has gone horribly wrong in your program.


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Most college quarterbacks who are at least decent usually play "well" if they're starting their first game vs a true cupcake.


What about their 2nd start against a powerful SELA squad?



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What about their 2nd start against a powerful SELA squad?


Are you still referring to Burrow, a guy who was trying to learn the system on the fly?

Any quarterback who transfers in the summer and starts their first game isn't really the same as the original premise.

It's nearly as hard as starting a true freshman.


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Again like someone else said, not saying king will be burrow. But trying to judge a qb off of one stat in one game (3 ints, where only one was a poor throw) is a bit swamp rat brain level.

Hell most of ya'll were saying Max will be the starter.

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BSherrill
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Any quarterback who transfers in the summer and starts their first game isn't really the same as the original premise.

It's nearly as hard as starting a true freshman.


Tell me you weren't a college athlete without telling me you weren't a college athlete.



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Again like someone else said, not saying king will be burrow. But trying to judge a qb off of one stat in one game (3 ints, were only one was a poor throw) is a bit swamp rat brain level.



It's completely possible he's great, it's also completely possible that he's trash.

No way of knowing as he doesn't have enough game experience.

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Hell most of ya'll were saying Max will be the starter.


I'd bet that Max starts more games than King this year, he's just Jimbo's type of quarterback.

The only thing that will hold him back is learning the system to the level that King likely knows it.


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Tell me you weren't a college athlete without telling me you weren't a college athlete.



What are you disagreeing with?


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You are saying starting at QB as a true freshman is as nearly as hard as being in your 4th year and having 3 months to learn the "playbook." That is what you are saying, correct?
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Kinda like you bet Brennan would be the starter and Daniels 3rd string? Your QB prowess is exceptional.


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You are saying starting at QB as a true freshman is as nearly as hard as being in your 4th year and having 3 months to learn the "playbook," that is what you are saying correct?





It isn't as difficult but it'd be right there.

"Studying the playbook" for three months isn't the same as getting live reps and building chemistry with your teammates, all of that can't be created in one fall camp.

The only added difference for a true freshman would be adjusting more to the speed of the game and the physical differences, of course, a career backup wouldn't have a lot more exposure to the speed of the game either outside of practice reps.


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Kinda like you bet Brennan would be the starter and Daniels 3rd string? Your QB prowess is exceptional.


That was my statement prior to fall camp, Aggie. Obviously, Daniels made some major leaps and Brennan didn't want to stick around.



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BSherrill
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Burrow played in 9 games at OSU and actually operating the offense in 8.

But beyond that yes they are very different. As a true freshman you are adjusting to everything including life in college.

As a backup you've already learned how camp goes, how the game weeks go, how to practice, etc particularly when you are coming from one good program to another. Yes you have to build chemistry but you've already learned how to do that and you are typically trying to build chemistry with new key pieces every year anyway.


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We went from being ranked 40th overall and a lockdown defense through the last 5 games



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The Aggie offense is going to be really, really good this year.




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