re: Has UGA officially passed Tennessee as the #2 SEC program all-time?

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LSU is a much more accomplished program compared to Tennessee.

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That's not true. They are very neck and neck. There is an argument for both.

Unanimous Natties: Advantage LSU
SEC Titles: Advantage Tennessee
Wins All Time: Advantage Tennessee
Winning Percentage: Advantage Tennessee
Bowl Games: Tie
Playoff Appearances: Tie
Head-to-Head: Advantage Tennessee

If unanimous natties are all you are counting, then sure, put LSU ahead. But then I guess that means Minnesota is better than both

Either way, LSU and Tennessee are light years ahead of Auburn lol

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It wasn't that long ago UT had more wins

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From the day Doug Dickey retired as AD in 2002 until the day Danny White became AD in 2021, UT’s football program was ran by a revolving door of idiots, boobs, and meddling boosters.

First they let Fulmer and his good buddies put it on cruise control because he thought he had a job for life, his last contract had built in extensions and raises for 8 win seasons.

Then came the Kiffin debacle, then they went a complete 180 from Kiffin and hired Doofey Dooley, then Lyle Jones, then that inbred goof Pruitt. After that string of shite, Heupel looks like the second coming of Bob Neyland in comparison.

Nearly 20 years wandering the college football desert would have killed a lesser program and it will damn sure get you passed by rivals. It never should have happened to a program with the resources and support available in Knoxville

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First they let Fulmer and his good buddies put it on cruise control because he thought he had a job for life, his last contract had built in extensions and raises for 8 win seasons.

Then came the Kiffin debacle, then they went a complete 180 from Kiffin and hired Doofey Dooley, then Lyle Jones, then that inbred goof Pruitt. After that string of shite, Heupel looks like the second coming of Bob Neyland in comparison.

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In other words, the Haslams began intervening.

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Dooley

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That dude just couldn’t get it done, but I recall him getting some pretty awful breaks on more than one occasion.

Possible his tenure & the general perception of him as an HC plays out very differently in an alternate dimension where a few calls or bounces go the other way.

This was an era where recruiting wasn’t just how big your budget was. As a LSU fan, I can relate to the butterfly effect.

Anyway he inherited a dumpster fire & I recall his teams always played hard. Unfortunate.

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Unanimous Natties: Advantage LSU

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This is a pretty big deal. LSU has four National Titles to Tennessee's two. If you're going to claim Tennessee is a better all time program, they better be way out front in the other categories. LSU having double the number of National Titles is tough to overcome.

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SEC Titles: Advantage Tennessee

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Yawn. Half of Tennessee's SEC titles were before integration. 11 of 13 were before the SEC Championship Game era. Four of the 13 were shared titles... two shared by three teams. Is a 3-way tie for an SEC title in a 10-team SEC as impressive as winning an SEC title game when the SEC had 14 teams? The answer is no.

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Wins All Time: Advantage Tennessee

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Are all wins equal? No. LSU has 104 wins all-time against Final AP ranked opponents... Tennessee has 100. Close, but LSU has more quality wins all-time... Tennessee certainly not making up the gap of having half the number of national titles.

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Winning Percentage: Advantage Tennessee

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Redundant

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Playoff Appearances: Tie

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LOL. James Madison also is tied with you here. Putting a category for something that's barely been a thing in the sport is silly.... and when you look at Tennessee's resume that year on the whole, it becomes even more of a joke. Also, wouldn't a 2-team or 4-team playoff appearance be way more impressive than a 12-team playoff appearance?

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Head-to-Head: Advantage Tennessee

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Only 34 meetings ever.

LSU has double the number of national titles, and the majority of their natties and SEC titles were won during eras in which obtaining them was far more impressive/difficult. LSU has more weeks ranked in the AP Poll.... more wins over Final ranked opponents, etc.

As someone said earlier... the gap between Alabama and everyone else is massive. Georgia too is beginning to separate themselves from the pack a bit. LSU, Tennessee, Auburn, and Florida are relatively close however it's pretty obvious that LSU should be at the front of that pack.

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Possible his tenure & the general perception of him as an HC plays out very differently in an alternate dimension where a few calls or bounces go the other way.

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Nah. Dude couldn't recruit. Butch had to bring in walk-on's to field a full O-line.

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And Paul Brown is considered the "father of modern professional football" but everyone knows the Browns are the laughing stock of the NFL.

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This is crazy being the one to inform an Ohio State fan about this - because I assume you're from Ohio - but the franchise Paul Brown had his most success with (4x AAFL championships, 2x pre-Super Bowl NFL championships) is now in Baltimore. They've been pretty successful there.

The school Neyland was famous for coaching is still in Knoxville, Tennessee. So pick a better analogy.

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Realistically the tiers are
Tier 1: Bama
Tier 2: UGA, Tenn, LSU
Tier 3: Auburn and Florida

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This looks right tier wise.

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All the championships he won in Cleveland are still part of Cleveland's history not Baltimore's.

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That franchise moved to Baltimore, where they've won more championships.

Today's Cleveland Browns are slightly older than the Texans.

None of this can be argued.

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That franchise moved to Baltimore, where they've won more championships.

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That franchise moved to Baltimore 33 years after Paul Brown was fired.

I honestly have no idea what point you are even trying to make.