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re: Greatest Of All Time?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:22 am to Jrocstar79
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:22 am to Jrocstar79
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Yeah but I'm pretty sure Tua would cause Nebraska even way more serious problems. Those players never even defended the spread
They shut down Florida at the height of the Spurrier era. I'm pretty sure handling a high powered passing attack wouldn't be an issue
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:25 am to Jrocstar79
The GOAT conversation ship has sailed. Bama's schedule was simply too soft
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:34 am to John Milner
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Miami in 01 would have a case, but Nebraska was too one dimensional on offense to be considered the best ever.
A few counterpoints:
1) When discussing GOAT teams, it ruins the conversation to compare eras. If a team of yesteryear ran an archaic offense or had smaller players or whatever, it doesn’t really matter because we can only analyze how that team competed and performed in the context of their era. Nebraska’s offense might have been innovative or perfect for the mid 90s sort of how what Bama is doing on offense is unique for 2018.
2) Nebraska might have been one dimensional based on eye test, but they ran the triple option with NFL athletes. That’s still a very difficult offense to defend and no one with elite players runs it nowadays. 2013 Auburn came close to running an option-like offense and they had plenty of success against some great defenses that year.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:34 am to Jrocstar79
Ohio State won that title on a egregious call.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:55 am to Jrocstar79
Jury is out. The fact of the matter is that Bama has played a pretty soft schedule overall.
Their best win by far was 29-0 over #10 LSU in Baton Rouge.
But after that, they beat the #18, #19, and #24 teams all at home.
If Bama closes out the year beating #4 Georgia, #5 Oklahoma, and #2 Clemson all by comfortable margins, then yes I could get on board with ranking this Bama team as one of the greatest CFB teams of all time.
But if Bama wins each of those games by 7 points or so.... consider them a very good team that just so happened to play a relatively easy regular season schedule.
Their best win by far was 29-0 over #10 LSU in Baton Rouge.
But after that, they beat the #18, #19, and #24 teams all at home.
If Bama closes out the year beating #4 Georgia, #5 Oklahoma, and #2 Clemson all by comfortable margins, then yes I could get on board with ranking this Bama team as one of the greatest CFB teams of all time.
But if Bama wins each of those games by 7 points or so.... consider them a very good team that just so happened to play a relatively easy regular season schedule.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 7:32 am to Jrocstar79
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Greatest Of All Time?
As much as I hate Bama I think this might be true.
This Bama team would easily beat either 2005 USC or Texas teams.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:21 pm to Jrocstar79
quote:LMAO
We got an elite 4 deep backfield. It would be the best running attack Nebraska 95 had ever seen by a wide margin
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:39 am to VADawg
Uhm probably quite a large gap between Florida's passing attack in 95 and Bama's in 2018. Juat offense overall. UF OL wasn't anything close to Bama's bro.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:41 am to VerlanderBEAST
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The GOAT conversation ship has sailed. Bama's schedule was simply too soft
They're likely going to finish the year with three consecutive teams that will finish in the top 10.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:42 am to VerlanderBEAST
Ok maybe u can tell us about all the badass running attacks Nebraska faced in 95 bro. I will be sitting here waiting ready to bust out LOL
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:44 am to VerlanderBEAST
Hey bro can u maybe post the Miami schedule in 2001 and the Nebraska schedule in 1995 so everybody can see how badass they were? Lol
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:00 am to BHMKyle
Comparison of 1995 Nebraska vs. 2018 Bama Opponents by SRS from strongest to weakest
Florida 22.59 vs. Georgia 22.89 (Slight advantage Bama)
Colorado 16.91 vs. Missouri 15.22 (Advantage Nebraska)
Kansas State 15.13 vs. LSU 14.70 (Slight advantage Nebraska)
Kansas 11.61 vs. Mississippi State 13.70 (Advantage Bama)
Michigan State 7.68 vs. Texas A&M 11.97 (Advantage Bama)
Arizona State 2.94 vs. Auburn 9.25 (Big Advantage Bama)
Oklahoma 0.88 vs. Ole Miss 3.19 (Advantage Bama)
Washington State -2.01 vs. Arkansas State 2.10 (Advantage Bama)
Oklahoma State -2.89 vs. Tennessee 1.15 (Advantage Bama)
Missouri -5.87 vs. Louisiana -1.06 (Advantage Bama)
Iowa State -6.05 vs. Arkansas -4.20 (Advantage Bama)
Pacific -15.61 vs. The Citadel FCS (Advantage Nebraska, Bad FBS team > Bad FCS team)
I don't know how anybody can say 1995 Nebraska > 2018 Bama based on strength of schedule. Nebraska's top opponents were better but Bama's overall schedule is clearly tougher. Add in the fact that Bama will have to beat two top teams in the CFB Playoff to win it all and it's a virtual certainty that their strength of schedule will end up being stronger than 1995 Nebraska's.
Florida 22.59 vs. Georgia 22.89 (Slight advantage Bama)
Colorado 16.91 vs. Missouri 15.22 (Advantage Nebraska)
Kansas State 15.13 vs. LSU 14.70 (Slight advantage Nebraska)
Kansas 11.61 vs. Mississippi State 13.70 (Advantage Bama)
Michigan State 7.68 vs. Texas A&M 11.97 (Advantage Bama)
Arizona State 2.94 vs. Auburn 9.25 (Big Advantage Bama)
Oklahoma 0.88 vs. Ole Miss 3.19 (Advantage Bama)
Washington State -2.01 vs. Arkansas State 2.10 (Advantage Bama)
Oklahoma State -2.89 vs. Tennessee 1.15 (Advantage Bama)
Missouri -5.87 vs. Louisiana -1.06 (Advantage Bama)
Iowa State -6.05 vs. Arkansas -4.20 (Advantage Bama)
Pacific -15.61 vs. The Citadel FCS (Advantage Nebraska, Bad FBS team > Bad FCS team)
I don't know how anybody can say 1995 Nebraska > 2018 Bama based on strength of schedule. Nebraska's top opponents were better but Bama's overall schedule is clearly tougher. Add in the fact that Bama will have to beat two top teams in the CFB Playoff to win it all and it's a virtual certainty that their strength of schedule will end up being stronger than 1995 Nebraska's.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:03 am to Jrocstar79
1 Sep 1, 2001 Sat (2) Miami (FL) @ Penn State Big Ten W 33 7 1 0 W 1
2 Sep 8, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Rutgers Big East W 61 0 2 0 W 2
3 Sep 27, 2001 Thu (1) Miami (FL) @ Pitt Big East W 43 21 3 0 W 3
4 Oct 6, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Troy Ind W 38 7 4 0 W 4
5 Oct 13, 2001 Sat (2) Miami (FL) @ (14) Florida State ACC W 49 27 5 0 W 5
6 Oct 25, 2001 Thu (1) Miami (FL) West Virginia Big East W 45 3 6 0 W 6
7 Nov 3, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Temple Big East W 38 0 7 0 W 7
8 Nov 10, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) @ Boston College Big East W 18 7 8 0 W 8
9 Nov 17, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) (14) Syracuse Big East W 59 0 9 0 W 9
10 Nov 24, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) (12) Washington Pac-10 W 65 7 10 0 W 10
11 Dec 1, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) @ (14) Virginia Tech Big East W 26 24 11 0 W 11
12 Jan 3, 2002 Thu (1) Miami (FL) N (4) Nebraska Big 12 W 37 14 12 0 W 12
1 Aug 31, 1995 Thu (2) Nebraska @ Oklahoma State Big 8 W 64 21 1 0 0 W 1
2 Sep 9, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska @ Michigan State Big Ten W 50 10 2 0 0 W 2
3 Sep 16, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Arizona State Pac-10 W 77 28 3 0 0 W 3
4 Sep 23, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Pacific Big West W 49 7 4 0 0 W 4
5 Sep 30, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Washington State Pac-10 W 35 21 5 0 0 W 5
6 Oct 14, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Missouri Big 8 W 57 0 6 0 0 W 6
7 Oct 21, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska (8) Kansas State Big 8 W 49 25 7 0 0 W 7
8 Oct 28, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska @ (7) Colorado Big 8 W 44 21 8 0 0 W 8
9 Nov 4, 1995 Sat (1) Nebraska Iowa State Big 8 W 73 14 9 0 0 W 9
10 Nov 11, 1995 Sat (1) Nebraska @ (10) Kansas Big 8 W 41 3 10 0 0 W 10
11 Nov 24, 1995 Fri (1) Nebraska Oklahoma Big 8 W 37 0 11 0 0 W 11
12 Jan 2, 1996 Tue (1) Nebraska N (2) Florida SEC W 62 24 12 0 0 W 12
2 Sep 8, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Rutgers Big East W 61 0 2 0 W 2
3 Sep 27, 2001 Thu (1) Miami (FL) @ Pitt Big East W 43 21 3 0 W 3
4 Oct 6, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Troy Ind W 38 7 4 0 W 4
5 Oct 13, 2001 Sat (2) Miami (FL) @ (14) Florida State ACC W 49 27 5 0 W 5
6 Oct 25, 2001 Thu (1) Miami (FL) West Virginia Big East W 45 3 6 0 W 6
7 Nov 3, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) Temple Big East W 38 0 7 0 W 7
8 Nov 10, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) @ Boston College Big East W 18 7 8 0 W 8
9 Nov 17, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) (14) Syracuse Big East W 59 0 9 0 W 9
10 Nov 24, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) (12) Washington Pac-10 W 65 7 10 0 W 10
11 Dec 1, 2001 Sat (1) Miami (FL) @ (14) Virginia Tech Big East W 26 24 11 0 W 11
12 Jan 3, 2002 Thu (1) Miami (FL) N (4) Nebraska Big 12 W 37 14 12 0 W 12
1 Aug 31, 1995 Thu (2) Nebraska @ Oklahoma State Big 8 W 64 21 1 0 0 W 1
2 Sep 9, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska @ Michigan State Big Ten W 50 10 2 0 0 W 2
3 Sep 16, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Arizona State Pac-10 W 77 28 3 0 0 W 3
4 Sep 23, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Pacific Big West W 49 7 4 0 0 W 4
5 Sep 30, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Washington State Pac-10 W 35 21 5 0 0 W 5
6 Oct 14, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska Missouri Big 8 W 57 0 6 0 0 W 6
7 Oct 21, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska (8) Kansas State Big 8 W 49 25 7 0 0 W 7
8 Oct 28, 1995 Sat (2) Nebraska @ (7) Colorado Big 8 W 44 21 8 0 0 W 8
9 Nov 4, 1995 Sat (1) Nebraska Iowa State Big 8 W 73 14 9 0 0 W 9
10 Nov 11, 1995 Sat (1) Nebraska @ (10) Kansas Big 8 W 41 3 10 0 0 W 10
11 Nov 24, 1995 Fri (1) Nebraska Oklahoma Big 8 W 37 0 11 0 0 W 11
12 Jan 2, 1996 Tue (1) Nebraska N (2) Florida SEC W 62 24 12 0 0 W 12
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 1:12 am
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:15 am to viceman
I have no clue who the best is....but jesus the names that where on that 01 Miami team is insane
RB Willis McGahee
RB Najeh Davenport
WR Andre Johnson
RB Clinton Portis
RB Frank Gore
T Bryant McKinnie
TE Kellen Winslow
TE Jeremy Shockey
CB Antrel Rolle
CB Mike Rumph
LB D.J. Williams
FS Ed Reed
CB Sean Taylor
CB Phillip Buchanon
LB Jonathan Vilma
DT Vince Wilfork
DT William Joseph Jr
RB Willis McGahee
RB Najeh Davenport
WR Andre Johnson
RB Clinton Portis
RB Frank Gore
T Bryant McKinnie
TE Kellen Winslow
TE Jeremy Shockey
CB Antrel Rolle
CB Mike Rumph
LB D.J. Williams
FS Ed Reed
CB Sean Taylor
CB Phillip Buchanon
LB Jonathan Vilma
DT Vince Wilfork
DT William Joseph Jr
Posted on 11/30/18 at 1:19 am to BoozeDawg
Though I know option teams rarely pass it is still noteworthy that the 95 Nebraska team gave up 0 sacks all year, and if I remember correctly, the whole starting offensive line ended up getting drafted eventually.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 4:08 am to viceman
Alabama is the first team basically ever (1880s Yale team) to win its first 12 games all by 20+ points.
We remember 95 Nebraska destroying Florida but Alabama has destroyed EVERYONE.
If Alabama wins all 15 games by 20+ there is no denying it that they will be the GTOAT
We remember 95 Nebraska destroying Florida but Alabama has destroyed EVERYONE.
If Alabama wins all 15 games by 20+ there is no denying it that they will be the GTOAT
Posted on 11/30/18 at 4:10 am to Jrocstar79
Probably this Bama team. You couldn’t cheat 20 years ago like you can today. Bama’s two deep depth chart is almost all 5 stars. Back in the day the NCAA would have dropped the hammer on this Bama team.
Posted on 11/30/18 at 7:37 pm to OmegaMan
Why would Bama have to cheat? When u have won 5 outta 9 NCs to combine with the fact Bama has the most players in the NFL I mean the University sells itself....
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:04 pm to YankeeHandle
I’ve seen bama defend the triple option. Nebraska wins that game
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:05 pm to MeatPants
The only issue is 2001 Miami had a garbage qb
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