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re: General opinion of Kirby
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
Kirby got lots of people scared. And thinking about him late at night.
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:34 am to djsdawg
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Walk ons are walk ons for life.
I'm not sure that's how it works.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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I'm not sure that's how it works.
That is beyond obvious.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:43 am to tylerdurden24
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a time of college football that doesn’t remotely resemble the current time period (let alone having to compete with a program that is operating like Alabama and Saban are).
5 different coaches have won titles in the last 8 years you selected as, I guess, the toughest era ever to win a title.
Are you really saying that it’s tougher to win a title in the last 8 years (when we actually have a playoff) than it was in the:
Bama/USC/Texas ‘60s?
Nebraska/Oklahoma/Notre Dame ‘70s?
Penn State/Miami ‘80s?
Florida State/Florida/Nebraska ‘90s?
Chizik won his in-between 3 bama titles and an SEC run of 7 straight
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:46 am to RD Dawg
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Let's take a look at a few that didn't win a title until after 50
Nick Saban
Bobby Bowden
Tom Osborne
Now do Dabo Swinney. OUCH !!
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:50 am to RD Dawg
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LMAO! If this isn't cherry picking at its finest I don't know what is.
LMAO. You are correct. The original subtle brag was that Kirby is still young and that (I guess) not too many his age had already played for a title. I “cherry picked” multiple coaches who no one would put in their top 50 all time but that not only played for but won titles before they were 50.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:52 am to kajunman
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Now do Dabo Swinney. OUCH !!
7th season, right?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:52 am to tygerphan
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5 different coaches have won titles in the last 8 years you selected as, I guess, the toughest era ever to win a title.
And of those 5, only Fisher and Dabo were in their first HC stints and both were in the mark ably weaker ACC. Meyer, Saban, and Orgeron all had ample HC experience heading into their title year(s).
Point being, you’re drawing an inane conclusion out of a strained comparison.
If you want to compare Kirby’s results to those of Fisher, Dabo, Day, and Riley then I think you can more accurately grade him.
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Are you really saying that it’s tougher to win a title in the last 8 years (when we actually have a playoff) than it was in the:
Bama/USC/Texas ‘60s?
Nebraska/Oklahoma/Notre Dame ‘70s?
Penn State/Miami ‘80s?
Florida State/Florida/Nebraska ‘90s?
Are you really saying nothing has changed from those decades other than the teams that are dominant?
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Chizik won his in-between 3 bama titles and an SEC run of 7 straight
And did absolutely nothing else of merit otherwise as a HC.
Wanna go down that same road with O?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:52 am to tygerphan
Kirby has one thing missing from his resume - a national title.
Everything else is elite. Win %, consistency, talent, performance vs rivals, etc. But, fair or not, he has to win a national title. Especially when guys like Orgeron and Dabo have done it.
But, if he does do that, his resume is then better than anybody outside of Saban/Dabo. Without question. A big "if", but to act like there is anything else missing is silly. That's the missing link.
Everything else is elite. Win %, consistency, talent, performance vs rivals, etc. But, fair or not, he has to win a national title. Especially when guys like Orgeron and Dabo have done it.
But, if he does do that, his resume is then better than anybody outside of Saban/Dabo. Without question. A big "if", but to act like there is anything else missing is silly. That's the missing link.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:54 am to djsdawg
quote:At a school with less resources and a bigger rebuilding project than Georgia. Right ?
7th season, right?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:56 am to tylerdurden24
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Meyer, Saban, and Orgeron all had ample HC experience heading into their title year(s).
O had 5 years experience as a HC which I believe is that same as Kirby.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 11:58 am to kajunman
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At a school with less resources and a bigger rebuilding project than Georgia. Right ?
Clemson has plenty of resources, and they play in the Acc.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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O had 5 years experience as a HC which I believe is that same as Kirby.
Do what?
So the OM years don't count?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:06 pm to RD Dawg
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Do what?
So the OM years don't count?
That's counting the Ole Miss years.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:07 pm to djsdawg
quote:And beat Bama. AT least, you can console yourself that Dabo didn't beat O either.
Clemson has plenty of resources, and they play in the Acc.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:07 pm to deeprig9
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Kirby got lots of people scared.
Scared of what? Disastrous fake punts at mid field? His record that isn't even as good as Richt's? Kirby has benefited from an awful SEC East. His record against the West leaves a lot to be desired.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:11 pm to kajunman
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Now do Dabo Swinney. OUCH !!
And?
Once again, you left out 3 of some of the best coaches in the last 30 years when "proving" your point.
BTW,how long did it take Dabo?
Which conference was he in?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:13 pm to RD Dawg
fantastic Sams # customer
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He's 52-14 (32-9 SEC) and has 4 straight top 7 finishes. He's 44-9 the last 4 seasons.
That's a B-? How many As/Bs are there?
A vast majority of the people on this forum seem to rate Kirby on some ridiculous curve based on UGA having more talent than other teams without taking into account the fact that talent acquisition is likely the most important quality for a college football coach.
He’s also overseen top 5-10 defenses almost every year he’s been here but gets zero credit as a coach for those for whatever reason.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 12:20 pm to TearsofKnowshon
quote:We should all clap and raise a toast.
He’s also overseen top 5-10 defenses almost every year he’s been here but gets zero credit as a coach for those for whatever reason.
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