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re: Frmr girlfriend of LaEl Collins shot and killed, Collins not currently a suspect
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:17 pm to beaver
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:17 pm to beaver
quote:No it is the media being its normal bullshite self. It has nothing to do with LSU. They suck with everything
But nah, never mind, ESPN hates LSU right? That's it...this is a huge conspiracy to hurt the LSU brand
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:17 pm to Monticello
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Hopefully this was a crack head who thought he could get some money out of the girl under the assumption that Collins was giving her cash.
The cops said from the outset they believed it was someone who knew the woman that killed her.
Cpl. Don Coppola, a police spokesman, said investigators believe from a preliminary investigation that Mills opened her door to someone who wanted to use her car and was shot multiple times after she refused.
https://theadvocate.com/news/12202975-123/pregnant-woman-shot-killed-overnight
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:19 pm to beaver
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But nah, never mind, ESPN hates LSU right? That's it...this is a huge conspiracy to hurt the LSU brand
It has nothing to do with LSU, but if this was about Cam Newton, you'd react the same way I did.
The tweet was click bait, and he knows most people aren't going to read the article.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:20 pm to lsupride87
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That was his exact tweet, with the ellipses and all. Is that intellectually honest in your eyes? Should we not hope for more out of people that are supposed to "report" the news?
Yes, I think it is. But I also agree with your first point about journalism.
But what Schefter's tweet said is a pretty natural way of explaining what is happening:
"Police seek to question" - I mean, maybe he could say "Police are hoping to talk to" but I don't think the connotation is significantly different.
"following the death of his pregnant..." - Assuming the ellipsis is for character limitations and a link followed. If so, "following" is probably better than "regarding" because "regarding" would insinuate he may know about the event itself. Nothing else objectionable about that phrase, IMO.
Put it together, and we all automatically go "Collins and pregnant GF and murder? Oh shite!" But that's on us, not Schefter. Sure, he knows he'll get some clicks on that basis, but he didn't ramp it up to make it sound bad. We're just patterned to think something is up when people say "police want to talk to" because something often is up. Should we ask that Schefter use kid gloves and write in an overly neutral and unnatural way?
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:21 pm to beaver
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No, it was written the same way every Schefter tweet that links to a FB story is worded...with as many words written as the 140 character limit will allow
and then still waits until the 2nd paragraph of the article to say that La'el isn't a suspect. And then still dances around saying that La'el isn't involved.
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And yeah I'm sure he's dying for clicks that go to his Facebook
Uhh, yeah, that makes him money.
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But nah, never mind, ESPN hates LSU right? That's it...this is a huge conspiracy to hurt the LSU brand
Ahh that's it, you're just trolling. I got it
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:22 pm to Cap Crunch
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and then still waits until the 2nd paragraph of the article to say that La'el isn't a suspect. And then still dances around saying that La'el isn't involved.
Does he know that Collins isn't involved? I'm sure he's like us in assuming he isn't, but nothing the police said would result in the media declaring someone innocent in any other scenario.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:23 pm to Cap Crunch
Baton Rouge and Louisiana has an incredibly high number of homicides where a woman is killed by her husband or boyfriend. Louisiana leads the country in such murders. So, it makes sense to investigate La'el Collins thoroughly.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:24 pm to Pettifogger
It's not like he's gonna start his tweet by saying "Lael Collins has nothing to do with the murder of a pregnant woman who used to be a girlfriend, but cops want to talk to him anyway." 
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:24 pm to Shaft Williams
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Baton Rouge and Louisiana has an incredibly high number of homicides where a woman is killed by her husband or boyfriend. Louisiana leads the country in such murders. So, it makes sense to investigate La'el Collins thoroughly.
It makes sense in any murder of females without an obvious cause to investigate former boyfriends, especially the potential father of a pregnant woman who is murdered.
And to be clear, I'm not saying Collins is being investigated.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:25 pm to Pettifogger
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Does he know that Collins isn't involved? I'm sure he's like us in assuming he isn't, but nothing the police said would result in the media declaring someone innocent in any other scenario.
He updated the story about 15 minutes later and made everything much more clear. I don't know what else he could have learned in that time
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:26 pm to JuiceTerry
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It's not like he's gonna start his tweet by saying "Lael Collins has nothing to do with the murder of a pregnant woman who used to be a girlfriend, but cops want to talk to him anyway."
Haha, my point exactly. When the police want to talk to you, it's usually not good. That's because either a) you may have been involved in wrongdoing, b) you're too close to wrongdoing or c) you're caught up in a bad spot by chance.
It's likely c) in this scenario, but a) and b) are quite common which is why we typically raise an eyebrow when the police seek someone out.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:27 pm to Pettifogger
Or since he dated the woman they want to see if he knows who could have done this.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:28 pm to Cap Crunch
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He updated the story about 15 minutes later and made everything much more clear. I don't know what else he could have learned in that time
The only thing I can see that he did was move the "not a suspect" part up and stick only to the declarations that Collins is not a suspect and that Collins isn't believed to be a suspect.
But in honesty, how many murder investigations have eventually focused on people who started out in that spot? A lot, right? I know Collins won't end up there, but Schefter doesn't know that and has no obligation to go overboard in reassuring people he's not a suspect.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:29 pm to Brageous
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Or since he dated the woman they want to see if he knows who could have done this.
I'm sure that's why they want to talk to him. But if you're a cop, aren't you looking into her relationship with Collins? Wouldn't it be negligent not to? From a journalistic perspective, there is just too much connection there, especially if it turns out to be his kid.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:34 pm to Pettifogger
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Put it together, and we all automatically go "Collins and pregnant GF and murder? Oh shite!" But that's on us, not Schefter
No, it's on Schefter. He was promoting misinformation.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:36 pm to Pettifogger
Let's be real. The police will always say that someone isn't a suspect in the media, until they have some info that is about a specific individual. I'm sure the first thing they teach in Detective 101, is if someone is murdered, you look at their ex. Especially if it's a pregnant female whose ex is about to be a millionaire.
And while I definitely don't to insinuate anything about Collins, he's going to need more than an alibi. Remember, he's about to be rich, and she knew her killer. A person could easily pay a friend, since she knew his friend. Hopefully for Collins sake, the police have our quickly find an unreported lead suspect.
And while I definitely don't to insinuate anything about Collins, he's going to need more than an alibi. Remember, he's about to be rich, and she knew her killer. A person could easily pay a friend, since she knew his friend. Hopefully for Collins sake, the police have our quickly find an unreported lead suspect.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:38 pm to beaver
quote:Whoa... That's crazy.
Frmr girlfriend of LaEl Collins shot and killed, Collins not currently a suspect
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:39 pm to CCTider
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Let's be real. The police will always say that someone isn't a suspect in the media, until they have some info that is about a specific individual. I'm sure the first thing they teach in Detective 101, is if someone is murdered, you look at their ex. Especially if it's a pregnant female whose ex is about to be a millionaire.
And while I definitely don't to insinuate anything about Collins, he's going to need more than an alibi. Remember, he's about to be rich, and she knew her killer. A person could easily pay a friend, since she knew his friend. Hopefully for Collins sake, the police have our quickly find an unreported lead suspect.
Agree with all of this. Hence why I don't think Schefter had any obligation to do anything but report what the police said regarding Collins' status (which he did). If he went overboard in noting he wasn't involved, and ultimately he was, Schefter gets dinged there too.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:44 pm to Pettifogger
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If he went overboard in noting he wasn't involved, and ultimately he was, Schefter gets dinged there too.
Not really, if he words it carefully. Maybe if he only mentioned it in quotes from the police.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:45 pm to Pettifogger
L'ael has been dating his current gf for quite a while, from what I understand.
How long ago was this young lady his gf?
How long ago was this young lady his gf?
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 5:46 pm
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