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re: Frmr girlfriend of LaEl Collins shot and killed, Collins not currently a suspect
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:01 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:01 pm to Pettifogger
The first tweet
And then doesn't even say that he isn't a suspect until the 2nd paragraph and still tries to make it unclear. In the updated article he makes it clear that La'el isn't believed to be involved at all.
Have some fricking integrity Schefter
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Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant... LINK
And then doesn't even say that he isn't a suspect until the 2nd paragraph and still tries to make it unclear. In the updated article he makes it clear that La'el isn't believed to be involved at all.
Have some fricking integrity Schefter
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:01 pm to Monticello
quote:Read my post above. Yall are not reading the original tweet from Schefter. Our sports Info Director jumped all over his arse and schefter has since changed his whole story
Whether fair or unfair, shitty or not, this is extremely relevant to the NFL draft in two days and it is therefore a sports media story. NFL teams would get word of this regardless of if the media reported it. If Collins is innocent he better give the cops his alibi and talk to them fast. If he is guilty (and only he knows this) he better keep his mouth shut. Jail time is not worth the difference between a 1st round or 3rd round grade.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:02 pm to Cap Crunch
Regardless of the article I had no doubt Collins was not a suspect. It is obvious they have few clues and are questioning anyone that she knows. Hope they find the animals.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:02 pm to Cap Crunch
The underlying question is whether the media has an obligation to caveat or be especially cautious with stories involving public figures when things like money or draft status are on the line.
And I don't know the answer. I read the first story and although I think it is nice that Schefter recrafted it as to make it more neutral sounding, I didn't find the first version to be at odds with the facts as we know them or especially misleading.
And I don't know the answer. I read the first story and although I think it is nice that Schefter recrafted it as to make it more neutral sounding, I didn't find the first version to be at odds with the facts as we know them or especially misleading.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:03 pm to Cap Crunch
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To me the biggest issue seems to be finding out if its his kid
Yep. NFL teams will need to know this before the draft. If it is his kid, his stock will plummet, fair or not.
Hopefully this was a crack head who thought he could get some money out of the girl under the assumption that Collins was giving her cash.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:04 pm to Cap Crunch
Christ, bitch about everything why don't ya?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:04 pm to lsupride87
Schefter was obviously trying to implicate La'el.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:04 pm to Pettifogger
quote:You serious? So if you are asked about a death of a loved one you are cool if they wait til the second paragraph to mention you arent a suspect, all while making sure the word currently gets floated out there? I think Shefter knew exactly what he was doing
I didn't find the first version to be at odds with the facts as we know them or especially misleading.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:05 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:No idea. That seems to be what the Nfl teams are actually concerned about
Who's child is it?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:05 pm to wadewilson
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Schefter was obviously trying to implicate La'el.
By reporting this in the same manner it would be reported for any famous person? Maybe so, but I think that is an indictment of how we handle public figures who are close to murders rather than anything specific to Schefter.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:05 pm to JuiceTerry
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Who's child is it?
That's the million dollar question. Literally.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:09 pm to lsupride87
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You serious? So if you are asked about a death of a loved one you are cool if they wait til the second paragraph to mention you arent a suspect, all while making sure the word currently gets floated out there? I think Shefter knew exactly what he was doing
It wasn't just the death of a loved one, it was the murder of a prior GF. That is automatically more suspicious in the eyes of everyone. And she's pregnant, and it's unclear if it's your kid or not.
All Schefter knows is that the police aren't currently calling him a suspect and don't believe he'll end up one. The police aren't exactly forthcoming with suspect labeling and Schefter doesn't indicate he is a suspect. He says he's wanted for questioning (true) and goes on to say he's not presently considered a suspect (true).
This is how it would be handled for any other public figure. Thus, the question is if we're supposed to treat a guy differently because he's on the verge of a big payday. And I don't know the answer to that.
If someone tells me we're too quick to try and make out a story whenever these circumstances arise with someone who has celebrity status, I'll listen. But that's the status quo and Schefter didn't do anything different.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:10 pm to beaver
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Christ, bitch about everything why don't ya?
Oh, so because I expect a little integrity out of an NFL journalist I bitch about everything? It was intentionally misleading to get more people to click the link and that isn't fair to La'el.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:11 pm to Pettifogger
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All Schefter knows is that the police aren't currently calling him a suspect and don't believe he'll end up one.
He wasn't too interested in revealing that
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:13 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Hence why I have said the whole media has gone to shite. They try to make the news, not report it. But not mentioning not a suspect in his original tweet, and then in his article he doesnt mention it until the second paragraph, that is one trying to create a story. Here is Shefters original tweet that Our SID went off on him, that he has since deleted
But that's the status quo and Schefter didn't do anything different.
quote:That was his exact tweet, with the ellipses and all. Is that intellectually honest in your eyes? Should we not hope for more out of people that are supposed to "report" the news?
AdamSchefter: Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant...
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:14 pm to Cap Crunch
No, it was written the same way every Schefter tweet that links to a FB story is worded...with as many words written as the 140 character limit will allow
And yeah I'm sure he's dying for clicks that go to his Facebook
Maybe you should realize how news articles are always written.
But nah, never mind, ESPN hates LSU right? That's it...this is a huge conspiracy to hurt the LSU brand
And yeah I'm sure he's dying for clicks that go to his Facebook
Maybe you should realize how news articles are always written.
But nah, never mind, ESPN hates LSU right? That's it...this is a huge conspiracy to hurt the LSU brand
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:15 pm to wadewilson
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He wasn't too interested in revealing that
He's not an LSU guy with protecting Collins as his #1 interest. He's a reporter who just got word that a future NFL player in a league obsessed with violence against women is going to be talking to police about his dead pregnant girlfriend.
Under the circumstances, I give him a B for reporting. I find nothing especially admirable about his first version, but I don't find it to be a repulsive display of sports journalism either.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:15 pm to beaver
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No, it was written the same way every Schefter tweet that links to a FB story is worded...with as many words written as the 140 character limit will allow
This is 140 characters? No room to mention not a suspect? quote:
Police are seeking to question LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins following the shooting death of a pregnant...
Posted on 4/28/15 at 5:16 pm to beaver
quote:So that makes it right? The media sucks so frick it lets accept it?
Maybe you should realize how news articles are always written.
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