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re: Free UAB Update: UAB head coach believes program is shutting down

Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51064 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:44 pm to
They had decent attendance this season, but that was really bolstered by home games against 2 in state teams early in the season and a nationally ranked Marshall team the week before the Iron Bowl when Bama and Auburn were playing warm up games.

I was really hoping to compare this season's numbers to next season's numbers (I was expecting another winning season next year) since there wouldn't have been as many games like I mentioned above but I guess that won't happen.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:49 pm to
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So what is the reasoning for them shutting it down. As in their actual reasoning, not necessarily the speculation? I've seen a lot of UAB folks talk about it coming but haven't seen anything to confirm it actually happening or refuting their claims.


Lack of fan support and losing money. The lack of fan support comes from playing in a rusting POS stadium that is not on campus and the losing money is something that all but 22 programs do.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51064 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:50 pm to
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Now you're not being completely honest. UAB has built and continues to build around Regions Park.


You think crime rates decreased around the Railroad Park/Regions Field area?
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:50 pm to
UAB never should have had a D1 program in the first place. Who cares?
Posted by LSUTiger205
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Aug 2006
10820 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:50 pm to
Sad. There are some good kids on the team. I know the line backer Slaughter pretty well, was stationed with his dad
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Uh, schedule a Bama or AU game at Legion Field for next season.


Thats apples and oranges. Just look back at SEC teams coming to Bham for a bowl game. They get on here and worry about where to park and is it safe. Everyone knows its cover your arse in that area.

UAB football really doesn't matter to me. I just think it's petty to do this to them with everything they give to this state.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:51 pm to
Going to be interesting when people start talking about why this was shut down. There's a reason for the deep rooted hatred between UAB and UAT.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42731 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Chicken before the egg, etc... They had a good thing going for a while but UA would never allow them to build on said success.

Tennessee has held Memphis football down for decades but would never dream of trying to shut it down.... that's some cold blooded shite.


Sorry but that's just not true. We have no connection to the University of Memphis. You're confusing the Tigers with UT @ Memphis (UT's med school campus). We have several campuses in the system all over the state - UTC, UTM (martin), are two examples of that - but we aren't connected with U of M. They're their own thing.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted by DingDongEddieStrong
Member since Aug 2013
3779 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:56 pm to
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There's a reason for the deep rooted hatred between UAB and UAT.



It has everything to do with Alabama feeling threatened. That's what happens when your program is in decline and loses to Ole Miss.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:58 pm to
Absolutely. Or they don't report it anymore. The city was, as always ignorant when they opened railroad park. But after that cluster frick they stepped up.

To think that the Regions Park area is as crime ridden as the Legion Field area shows a disingenuous agenda.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26996 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Asses in seats?

You really expect people to rush week in and week out to Legion Field? No thanks, I like my body with the current openings it has.


Is Legion Field still used for high school games?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:03 pm to
I think they play a few HS games there. I'm pretty sure there was a huge brawl w/ a shooting there last year during a HS game.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:05 pm to
Has nothing to do with Alabama feeling threatened. Why would Bama feel threatened by a program that can't get 15,000 in the stands?

It is about fiscal responsibility and not keeping the program on welfare.

There are very few true UAB fans. 99% of their fans are Bama or Auburn fans, so, they are going to go to Tuscaloosa or Auburn given the chance, as evidenced by their attendance for years. This isn't like they just started and haven't built a following. The program is 22 years old and is no better off (except for their coach) than they were when they started.

It is interesting to me that only very recently have they even considered getting funding from other sources. The UAB fans, both of them, want the BOT to build them a program rather than building it themselves.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:05 pm to
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and the fan of UAB football.



Note fan singular
Posted by Fireman17
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
11709 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:05 pm to
Who will MSU beat up from bama now?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141311 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:07 pm to
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It is about fiscal responsibility and not keeping the program on welfare.


Doesn't stop FSU.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26996 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:11 pm to
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I think they play a few HS games there. I'm pretty sure there was a huge brawl w/ a shooting there last year during a HS game.


And yet they still play HS games there. And like the other poster said...if Bama or Auburn played a game there, the stadium would be packed. So the whole "no one wants to go to Legion Field" argument doesn't cut it.

In all of the debate, I have yet to see the numbers that show a UAB football program, with an on campus stadium, can be viable long term.

I have also seen it written that the city approached UAB about cooperating on a city owned facility, but that UAB wouldn't go along.

Also, the city currently gets 5,000 season tickets from UAB every year...paid for with city tax dollars.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:16 pm to
And, they have tried to give away tickets...for free and they still can't get people to go.

Legion Field is not the problem. The BOT is not the problem. The problem is only a handful, if that many, really care enough to support the program.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Has nothing to do with Alabama feeling threatened. Why would Bama feel threatened by a program that can't get 15,000 in the stands?


That averaged around 20K this season

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It is about fiscal responsibility and not keeping the program on welfare.


Then give them the resources necessary to win and support itself. Also only 23 athletic programs are self sustaing and those still receive subsidies.
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LSU, Nebraska, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Purdue and Texas were the only schools to report no subsidy money in 2012.


No gumps
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Alabama's program received nearly $5.5 million in institutional funds in 2012, up from more than $5.2 million in 2011. It reported sending nearly $4.4 million of an $16.7 million total surplus back to the university — $1 million for faculty support and nearly $3.4 million in licensing money.
LINK

So Bama received $5.5million and paid back 4.4 million. So the university of Alabama'a Athletic Department is on welfare. Time to shutdown your athletics gumps.
Posted by ksrph
Alabaster, AL
Member since Jan 2010
1168 posts
Posted on 11/30/14 at 3:19 pm to
UAB should've tried to stay FCS and compete with Samford and Jax State rather than jumping into the ocean, expecting the BOT to build them an ocean liner.
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