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re: Former Arkansas baseball player, Rays catcher, Jean Ramirez dies 'unexpectedly' at 28.

Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:22 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:22 am to
Lol, I have complete and total confidence in my reasons.

I have explained them to you very clearly.

They don't work and they aren't necessary for someone in my age/health range even if they did. The fact that there is small chance of an adverse reaction, though it unquestionably exists, doesn't even play into my decision.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50423 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:35 am to
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GoodSciencing?

I believe 100% vaccines could have an impact but that's not well sourced data (or sourced at all)

shite looks like a fifth grader fricking off on dad's Google spreadsheet


Good luck finding a main stream media source willing to discuss this honestly. Maybe a year from now.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95129 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:46 am to
The names on your list would 100% go completely unnoticed on this board and for any American in normal times. If they died the same way in 2017 you and I would have no clue or care

So I ask you, combine the entire ncaa, nfl, mlb, nhl, nba and show us all the collapsed players since the vaccine was introduced

You can’t. The last notable one was the Florida player from pre vaccine
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25194 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:58 am to
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As does the Covid-19 virus at an exponentially higher rate, but do you, MAGA.


Don't argue with them. It has become a religious thing in that any opinion that isn't the one true word is heresy. Science and facts will not convince them. Anti-Vaccination is a weird hill to quite literally die on but so be it.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2529 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:10 am to
quote:

They don't work and they aren't necessary for someone in my age/health range even if they did. The fact that there is small chance of an adverse reaction, though it unquestionably exists, doesn't even play into my decision.
I know two healthy in shape 30 year olds who had Covid and got their arse kicked by it the first time.

One got vaccinated and hasn’t had it again or at least didn’t have any bad symptoms if he did somehow got it again.

The second person thought he was immune and didn’t get vaccinated. He just got Covid for the second time and is getting his arse kicked by it once again.

The vaccine won’t prevent you from getting it but it damn sure lessens the severity of it.
Posted by Milf n Cookies
Texas
Member since Nov 2021
730 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Former Arkansas baseball player, Rays catcher, Jean Ramirez dies 'unexpectedly' at 28.


He was vaxicuted.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30840 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:39 am to
I don't doubt you and everyone has their own experiences that form their opinions. That's kind of how life works. If I start knowing of a bunch of people in my circumstances getting hospitalized from COVID then I might re-think my decision.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:34 pm to
I'm not the one making a claim. You anti-vaxxers are. The burden of proof falls on y'all. And to be quite frank, I have a high suspicion that most people arguing this topic would bomb the hell out of an AP Biology or AP Statistics exam. So my hopes for getting a cohesive argument against the vaccine is zilch.

If you want to be heard and taken seriously, please verify that your data is legitimate and not "fear porn" (yes, I realize that COVID itself is "fear porn", but that doesn't mean the vaccines don't work for those who are vulnerable).

Personally, I don't care if you get the vaccine. Just stop spreading false data that discourages those who can be killed by COVID from getting the shot. Also, stop telling us you're not vaccinated. Nobody cares.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37520 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 12:36 pm to
The promotion of the shite vaccine instead of early treatment options has likely led to the death of tens of thousands.

So freaking sad
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8062 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50423 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

anti-vaxxers


I have taken the Pfizer vaccine (but am currently sick with COVID anyway) and am not opposed to vaccines. There is no evidence to support healthy young people getting the vaccine. The evidence shows they should not.
This post was edited on 1/13/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9939 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:52 pm to
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Good luck finding a main stream media source willing to discuss this honestly. Maybe a year from now.


I don't care about mainstream media, I care about showing your work.

If I make a chart of bullshite data someone somewhere will dutifully spread it across the internet because it confirms their pre existing beliefs.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
10881 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:59 pm to
Guess we all will have to pay when you show up in a hospital and take up a bed that some accident victim or stroke victim needs. You people should be ashamed. Surely you can’t be this stupid
Posted by Gpfather
Member since Jan 2019
421 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:01 pm to
Healthy young ppl get the vaccine to help prevent passing it on to the unhealthy. Is it 100% effective? No. Does it help? Yes.

Haven’t seen anybody mention the idea of thinking of others.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15874 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:11 pm to
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Healthy young ppl get the vaccine to help prevent passing it on to the unhealthy


Well, tough shite bc the vax doesn't prevent anybody from transmitting it.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21282 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:12 pm to
There it is…
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50423 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Healthy young ppl get the vaccine to help prevent passing it on to the unhealthy. Is it 100% effective? No. Does it help? Yes.


None of this is true. The vaccine is 0% effective at preventing you from catching COVID or infecting others.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8062 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:29 pm to
Remember when Pfizer said the two shot vaccine was 97% effective at preventing the covid? And then the president got on national TV and said that if you got the vaccine, you would not catch covid?

Vaccine effectiveness was at least 97% against symptomatic COVID-19 cases

Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3897 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 10:11 pm to
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