Started By
Message
re: Forbes America's Best Colleges
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:12 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:12 pm to Arkapigdiesel
quote:College football has never been about college at The University of Bubbaball
I'm sure Bama fans will lose sleep over their academia ranking. Meanwhile, they will continue to skull drag their opponent's on every Saturday for the foreseeable future.
Thats what Nick Saban knew when he set up his cheating scheme there - there would ALWAYS be more money for bubbaball
0
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:13 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
quote:
They also rank low because they do not have a medical or law school.
I don't think Auburn has a medical or a law school and they rank much higher than MSU
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:17 pm to BHMKyle
One half of the top-10 schools are on the West Coast!....really?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:
Now it costs the same to go to Alabama OOS as it used to cost to go to Vanderbilt or an Ivy school.
Yet they still come here in droves. The University is doing something right
Posted on 9/8/21 at 1:32 pm to tiger perry
quote:
I don't think Auburn has a medical
Have a fairly new DO program
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:05 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
Here is the Average Early Career Salary for the SEC schools
And COL?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:07 pm to coachcrisp
quote:
One half of the top-10 schools are on the West Coast!....really?
Sure. And ... ?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:08 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
233. Alabama
OOOOF! At least you're good at football.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:31 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:
I love having some out of state presence at the University. I think it's been good for everyone. I don't love it being ratcheted up to almost 60% of the undergraduate population for going on 5-10 years now.
Spoke to a guy a few years ago at an Economic conference who was on the board of alumni for the school of Engineering at Alabama. He told me he expected Alabama to shift away from its emphasis on growing enrollment through out of state kids... basically said the plan which had been in place for a decade or more had not produced the results the school had hoped it would. He said too often kids were coming to Bama... Having a great 4 years... but then they headed back to where they came from... many not putting much thought into where they went to school within a few years.
Sure enough... Bama's number of incoming new undergrad students has been shrinking since its peak back in 2016:
2016: 7,559
2017: 7,407
2018: 6,663
2019: 6,764
2020: 6,507
And with that, so has the percentage of out of state kids:
2016: 68.1%
2017: 67.5%
2018: 65.9%
2019: 62.6%
2020: 58.5%
Sure enough... incoming new undergrads in 2016 totaled 5,089.... in 2020 that number was down to just 3,772. Meanwhile the number of in-state new undegrads increased from 2,412 up to 2,701 during the same period.
It's obvious Bama is retreating from their plan which seemed to start kicking in back around 2005 or 2006.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:36 pm to BHMKyle
1-Van
2-FL
3-TX
slight drop off
4-A&M
HUGE DROP OFF
errrbody else
2-FL
3-TX
slight drop off
4-A&M
HUGE DROP OFF
errrbody else
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:47 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
Spoke to a guy a few years ago at an Economic conference who was on the board of alumni for the school of Engineering at Alabama. He told me he expected Alabama to shift away from its emphasis on growing enrollment through out of state kids... basically said the plan which had been in place for a decade or more had not produced the results the school had hoped it would. He said too often kids were coming to Bama... Having a great 4 years... but then they headed back to where they came from... many not putting much thought into where they went to school within a few years. Sure enough... Bama's number of incoming new undergrad students has been shrinking since its peak back in 2016: 2016: 7,559 2017: 7,407 2018: 6,663 2019: 6,764 2020: 6,507 And with that, so has the percentage of out of state kids: 2016: 68.1% 2017: 67.5% 2018: 65.9% 2019: 62.6% 2020: 58.5% Sure enough... incoming new undergrads in 2016 totaled 5,089.... in 2020 that number was down to just 3,772. Meanwhile the number of in-state new undegrads increased from 2,412 up to 2,701 during the same period. It's obvious Bama is retreating from their plan which seemed to start kicking in back around 2005 or 2006.
This is exactly right. The emphasis now with the new President is to increase in-state students and increase Graduate school students to bring in even more research $$$. We are slowly getting there and the research $$$ has been booming lately. It was silly to think that these Out of state students would actually consider staying in this state for their careers. This in turn has absolutely KILLED our in-state recruiting for the larger metros. When I graduated high school in 2005 in Huntsville, there were more kids going to UA than anywhere. Last year I believe AU doubled the amount of kids going to AU than kids going to UA in Huntsville. An absolute shame and it shows in the workforce too.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 3:01 pm to cdur86
quote:
This in turn has absolutely KILLED our in-state recruiting for the larger metros. When I graduated high school in 2005 in Huntsville, there were more kids going to UA than anywhere. Last year I believe AU doubled the amount of kids going to AU than kids going to UA in Huntsville. An absolute shame and it shows in the workforce too.
I see it around me as well. I live in Birmingham... just south of downtown. The number of students going to Alabama and Auburn used to be fairly even, but in recent years is easily 60/40 in Auburn's favor... and its been this way for over a decade.
The Over-the-Mountain area of Birmingham is the type of place that most kids who grew up there want to come back and raise their families there. I've often wondered what the impact of 10+ years of Auburn having the advantage will do, not just in those 10 years but in future years as well.
When I'm at the park, you just see more kids running around with Auburn gear on. Alabama still has a huge presence for sure, but the area seems far more pro-Auburn than it did when I first came to Birmingham years ago.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 3:14 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
I see it around me as well. I live in Birmingham... just south of downtown. The number of students going to Alabama and Auburn used to be fairly even, but in recent years is easily 60/40 in Auburn's favor... and its been this way for over a decade. The Over-the-Mountain area of Birmingham is the type of place that most kids who grew up there want to come back and raise their families there. I've often wondered what the impact of 10+ years of Auburn having the advantage will do, not just in those 10 years but in future years as well. When I'm at the park, you just see more kids running around with Auburn gear on. Alabama still has a huge presence for sure, but the area seems far more pro-Auburn than it did when I first came to Birmingham years ago.
This is an embarrassment to me, and even more so with Birmingham so close to Tuscaloosa. Get our recruiters out of Illinois/California/New Jersy/New York/Pennsylvania and into the metros of Birmingham, Huntsville, and Mobile or else you will continue to see more of the kids with AU gear. Even our alumni do a horrendous job of keeping legacies of UA to actually go to UA. I can't tell you how many split households where there is one AU parent and one UA parent and their kids will choose AU over UA. I can understand them going to AU if they want to be a vet or pharmacist or something that UA doesn't have, but they are going there because all their friends go there and major in something like Business.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 3:32 pm to cdur86
Good Post, OP!!!
I'm an old...
I like the last list best.
Supports my belief that if you can get into Texas, you go to Texas. Those who can get into the Ivy's, Stanford, Service Academys, or any other school with specific programs they want, tend to go there.
I knew quite a few that left Texas for other places that had less "distractions" than Austin, a number of which went on to be CEO's at their companies. Playing school is hard in Austin.
I'm an old...
I like the last list best.
Supports my belief that if you can get into Texas, you go to Texas. Those who can get into the Ivy's, Stanford, Service Academys, or any other school with specific programs they want, tend to go there.
I knew quite a few that left Texas for other places that had less "distractions" than Austin, a number of which went on to be CEO's at their companies. Playing school is hard in Austin.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 3:34 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
Here is the Average Early Career Salary for the SEC schools:
That's also highly dependant on where graduates tend to live and isn't adjusted for standrd of living.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 3:37 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
But to list just the SEC, only the Southern region is listed.
The cost of living in different parts of the southern region can be wildly different
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:13 pm to lsufball19
quote:
The cost of living in different parts of the southern region can be wildly different
Can be. But I would think the majority of SEC grads live in the 18 major metros of the SEC footprint + Charlotte.
These would include: (1) Dallas, (2) Houston, (3) Miami, (4) Atlanta, (5) Tampa, (6) St. Louis, (7) Orlando, (8) Charlotte, (9) San Antonio, (10) Austin, (11) Kansas City, (12) Nashville, (13) Jacksonville, (14) Oklahoma City, (15) Memphis, (16) Louisville, (17) New Orleans, (18) Birmingham, and (19) Tulsa
The cost of living between these 19 metros is fairly comparable with the already noted exceptions of Austin and Miami.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:28 pm to BHMKyle
Florida is the cheapest for in state students, which would go a long way if I were choosing a school these days. Paying 6k a year vs 12k is huge imo. I wouldn't even consider OOS tuition.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:36 pm to BHMKyle
quote:
These would include: (1) Dallas, (2) Houston, (3) Miami, (4) Atlanta, (5) Tampa, (6) St. Louis, (7) Orlando, (8) Charlotte, (9) San Antonio, (10) Austin, (11) Kansas City, (12) Nashville, (13) Jacksonville, (14) Oklahoma City, (15) Memphis, (16) Louisville, (17) New Orleans, (18) Birmingham, and (19) Tulsa. The cost of living between these 19 metros is fairly comparable
eh, not really. Some are, but there are wide gaps between several of them. Memphis, for instance, is about 30% cheaper than Nashville for daily expenses, and housing costs are about 70% cheaper. That's a pretty significant gap for two cities in the same state.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 4:38 pm
Page 3 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News