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re: For those that think Texas A&M will fall back to earth after JM leaves....

Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:58 am to
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7430 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:58 am to
Didn't read the thread.

Did Rantards try to convince the Ags that having the country's best QB is some kind of bad thing because other top ranked QBs busted in the past?

That's always my favorite.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1779 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:07 pm to
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Didn't read the thread.

Did Rantards try to convince the Ags that having the country's best QB is some kind of bad thing because other top ranked QBs busted in the past?

That's always my favorite.


Not that its a bad thing, just that it isnt a good thing either, which is fair to an extent. The irony is the people saying to tap the breaks are also the same people that get excited when their team picks up a big time prospect.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:26 pm to
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Not that its a bad thing, just that it isnt a good thing either, which is fair to an extent. The irony is the people saying to tap the breaks are also the same people that get excited when their team picks up a big time prospect.


Yes, we get excited about a prospect. We are glad they chose our team and hope they do well, but you are a complete newb if you think just getting a mere commitment out of this guy is going to secure our future. Some scenarios that have played out in the VERY recent past:

1. Dude changes his pick and signs with another school on NSD.
2. Dude gets on campus and doesn't fit with the program well, ends up not seeing the field.
3. Dude gets to campus and another recruit proves to be much better, transfers.
4. Dude has something go down in his life and he never makes it to College Station.
5. Injury, the player is never the same. Never lives up to potential.
6. Scheme change that renders player's style, skills useless.

These are REAL-LIFE scenarios that have happened at A&M within the past 3 years. I am excited as hell about getting a commitment from Kyle Allen, but I sure as hell wouldn't start this thread, especially given the fact that he has not signed a LOI, nor set foot on campus as a student.

Do I think we fall back to earth after JFF leaves? No. I think we do much better. JFF is only one person. Look at the talent we already have on campus. Hell, Kenny Hill has some serious upside and is learning from a Heisman winner. Let these poop-flingers troll away with the "going back to normal mediocrity" bullshite. LSU should have fallen back to earth after Saban left. Do you think Alabama "falls back to earth" when Saban leaves? A program is not one person. We're doing it the right way this time, and the results are apparent.
Posted by 420centraltime
Gump nation
Member since Feb 2013
998 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:31 pm to
Phillip Sims and Kiehl Frazier say hi.

Rankings don't always translate to the college game.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:45 pm to
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Rankings don't always translate to the college game.

That's assuming they even make it to campus.
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
4278 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 12:47 pm to
I don't think A&M is going to be terrible after Manziel but I do believe they become a 3-4 loss team. Kyle Allen could be a two year all american but he still wouldn't scratch the surface of the ridiculous things Johnny Hancock does on the field. Manziel might be the biggest douchebag of all time, but he is the most talented/lucky SOB I've ever seen.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1779 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 1:22 pm to
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Yes, we get excited about a prospect. We are glad they chose our team and hope they do well, but you are a complete newb if you think just getting a mere commitment out of this guy is going to secure our future. Some scenarios that have played out in the VERY recent past:

1. Dude changes his pick and signs with another school on NSD.
2. Dude gets on campus and doesn't fit with the program well, ends up not seeing the field.
3. Dude gets to campus and another recruit proves to be much better, transfers.
4. Dude has something go down in his life and he never makes it to College Station.
5. Injury, the player is never the same. Never lives up to potential.
6. Scheme change that renders player's style, skills useless.

These are REAL-LIFE scenarios that have happened at A&M within the past 3 years. I am excited as hell about getting a commitment from Kyle Allen, but I sure as hell wouldn't start this thread, especially given the fact that he has not signed a LOI, nor set foot on campus as a student.

Do I think we fall back to earth after JFF leaves? No. I think we do much better. JFF is only one person. Look at the talent we already have on campus. Hell, Kenny Hill has some serious upside and is learning from a Heisman winner. Let these poop-flingers troll away with the "going back to normal mediocrity" bullshite. LSU should have fallen back to earth after Saban left. Do you think Alabama "falls back to earth" when Saban leaves? A program is not one person. We're doing it the right way this time, and the results are apparent.



I agree, and I wouldnt use Kyle Allen as proof we arent going to fall back to earth either. I'm just saying that all the people who say recruiting rankings dont matter will come on here February talking about all the high rated freshman stepping on campus next year.

The only thing the Kyle Allen commitment shows is that Sumlin is able to lure in top talent. Now lets see if he is able to develop it.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 1:54 pm to
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I agree, and I wouldnt use Kyle Allen as proof we arent going to fall back to earth either. I'm just saying that all the people who say recruiting rankings dont matter will come on here February talking about all the high rated freshman stepping on campus next year.

The only thing the Kyle Allen commitment shows is that Sumlin is able to lure in top talent. Now lets see if he is able to develop it.


I agree with this. Recruiting rankings are a factor and Ranters are quick to boast about them

I would also add that Sumlin is also good at evaluating his players and picking the starter, without regard for prestige or popularity. See JFF over 4-star Showers. That in and of itself gives me confidence in the future, JFF or no JFF.
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 2:22 pm to
Aggies already have commits from 10 of the top 20 HS players in Texas that have committed.

Also in on several of the very top Texas recruits that haven't committed.

Add in the nations top Pro style QB recruit and other OOS commits and that is a hell for stout class.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 2:27 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14560 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

The point I'm making is we're not going to become the next Auburn.

This is the funniest post of the thread. So you don't want to be successful in the SEC for decades and win SEC titles or a national title?
As if A&M is in any way a better football program than Auburn.

And I hate Auburn.

Texas A&M = Arkansas
Posted by Bamaal
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2012
316 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 2:52 pm to
I love watchin' y'all dream
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7430 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 2:56 pm to
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Now lets see if he is able to develop it.

Drew Brees, Jason White, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum, Johnny Manziel.

His ability to develop hasn't been attacked. Rantards like to troll by suggesting he can't recruit big-time talent, a suggestion he's already taken off the table.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40253 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

A program is not one person



That's what we have been trying to tell ags, so what would aggy record be without JFF? Would of lost to Ole miss for sure, Bama would have blown your doors off.
Posted by Bubbles Up
Member since Jul 2011
2985 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 3:02 pm to
But we do have JFF so it's moot.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40253 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 3:06 pm to
Not if you are saying one man doesn't make a team..


Cause well, he is your team. Can't have it both ways..
Posted by CocknDawg
Near Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
1274 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 3:10 pm to
A&M knows every cheating trick known to man. And it is one of the top 5 richest schools in country, I believe.

Build a non-stop train to Houston--damn College Station--and you might rule the world.

Texas, be worried, be very worried.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21302 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 3:15 pm to
I've not read this shite show, but I want to commend Kaiser for apparently taking his meds.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
2111 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

The point of this thread is clear-A&M is going to remain a power long after Manziel.



For those aggie fans that think they have been exceptionally great with JM congrats on no SEC championship and no Nat'l championship.

List of teams you have not beat since joining the SEC:
1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. LSU
4. USCe

The point of this post is to bring the OP down to earth because your team is already their.

For all normal aggie posters congrats on a very good first year in the SEC you have proven to be a challenge.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

This is the funniest post of the thread. So you don't want to be successful in the SEC for decades and win SEC titles or a national title?
As if A&M is in any way a better football program than Auburn.

And I hate Auburn.

Texas A&M = Arkansas


Way to completely miss the point.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Not if you are saying one man doesn't make a team..


Cause well, he is your team. Can't have it both ways..


This is a TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE of Circular-GotDamn-Reasoning.


Are some of you LSU guys deliberate trollfricks or are you really this dumb?
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