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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:37 pm to
truth.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12302 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:38 pm to
But they went to Atlanta this year tho
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12879 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Bama still inclining

I agree. You think this year 'Bama may actually go from #1 to #0?

As in, we get promoted to the NFL we're so damn good? I can see it happening.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:41 pm to
Dumb troll attempt MORON !
Posted by GameCocky88
Mount Pleasant, SC
Member since Dec 2015
4837 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:44 pm to
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quote:

They are just as culpable in Mizzou winning back to back East Titles as we are.


Unfortunately, A&M is the most culpable.

Both times, Georgia needed one Missouri loss to win the east and go to Atlanta. Both times, A&M failed to deliver.


Unfortunately... this isn't true. 2013 USC beat Mizzou, the only SEC team to do so, and lost to UGA and UT causing Mizzou to go to the SECCG with a one game lead over USC. The next year the same thing happened to UGA, they beat Mizzou, their sole SEC loss and UGA went on to lose to USC and UF sending Mizzou back to the SECCG with a one game lead over UGA.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 1:45 pm
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18503 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:45 pm to
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Aggie Dynasty
Even your Aggie brothers have turned their backs on you for this bullshite. Post more!
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
USA
Member since Jul 2013
2102 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:46 pm to
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God aggy is so obsessed with LSU


Shakita Bonita is a loser longhorn on a SEC message board, why? Go back to the Big 12 message boards and chat with power houses Iowa St., Kansas St., rapists Baylor, Daddy's TCU and Oklahoma. Leave the Big Boy Football to the SEC schools.
Posted by TrueReb13
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:48 pm to
AM
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18503 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Bama still inclining
Too bad no one called for you
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Georgia


lol
Posted by tigbit
Member since Jun 2011
2800 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:06 pm to
Here is your answer.

LINK
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3497 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:13 pm to
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Decline



quote:

Georgia



Wat??
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:13 pm to
None.

LSU
LSU is maintaining right now at a very high level... especially considering their programs history. They've always been a great program. But right now they are winning at a more consistent rate than probably every before.

Under Miles, LSU is tied for having the 2nd most wins of any power program since 2005 with 112 wins (behind only Oregon with 115 and tied with Oklahoma).

LSU has compiled 16 consecutive seasons of 8 wins or more. LSU has never compiled more than 16 consecutive winning seasons in their history... let alone 8+ win seasons.

While many will claim LSU is "declining" due to their lack of championships, I disagree. LSU's SEC Championships have always come in spurts with long separations:

1935, 1936...
1958, 1961...
1970...
1986, 1988...
2001, 2002, 2007, 2011

Gaps of more than 5 years are separated. While next season will mark 5 years since LSU last won an SEC Title, I don't think its fair to assume they are leaving the top tier of the conference anytime soon.

Miles just landed arguably the highest rated recruiting class in LSU history.

I think LSU will maintain its current level (which is arguably the Golden Age of LSU football) if not even improve a bit over the next few seasons.

Tennessee
How can they decline any further than they've already been for the past decade? It is presumably impossible for a program with the tradition and fan support of Tennessee to sink any deeper than they did from about 2006 through 2014. While the 2015 certainly was nothing to celebrate in the grand scheme of things, it was without a doubt a major step in the right direction.

If anything, Tennessee has hit bottom and will improve as a program in the coming years.

Georgia
Georgia is winning at a rate never before seen in UGA history. While the last 5 years have been void of any major championships, we've won 10, 12, 8, 10, & 10 games respectfully.

Only 7 power programs have more wins during the past 5 years than Georgia.

Georgia, like LSU, seems to win championships in spurts with long periods of separation in between. Years in which Georgia won the SEC:

1942, 1946, 1948...
1959...
1966, 1968...
1976, 1980, 1981, 1982...
2002, 2005...

Georgia is due for another title. I don't think anyone is expecting a long-term decline in the near future considering we just fired our coach. If anything, Georgia fans expect the titles to come in proportion with the wins over the next few years.

Texas A&M
While many might say the Aggie program is on the decline since Johnny Manziel, I think that 2012 season should be looked at as an outlier in terms of Aggie football during the past two decades.

If you go back to 1995, which was the year Texas A&M started the decline at the end of the RC Slocumb era, here are how many times that A&M has finished with specific win totals during a season:

4 wins- 2x
5 wins- 1x
6 wins- 3x
7 wins- 4x
8 wins- 4x
9 wins- 5x
10 wins- never
11 wins- 2x

Sure, Texas A&M reached a peak for the post-Slocumb era with Johnny Football in 2012... but it was really just a one-year thing. It was an outlier for having one of the greatest players to play the college game in the history of the sport.

The truth is, Texas A&M's back-to-back 8-5 seasons in 2014 and 2015 are right in line with where the Aggie program has been the past 21 years.

Considering their fertile recruiting ground and their major facility upgrades, Texas A&M has not come close to reaching their full potential as a program. While I expect the 2016 season to be a bit rough, I do not see Texas A&M as a program in decline.

I see Texas A&M as a team in need of a quarterback, and a program on the verge of competing for championships every year. It will take some time, but everyone knows Texas A&M is a sleeping giant. The combination of Texas A&M and the SEC is lethal. It may take a few more years, but they will certainly improve as a program once they adjust the the SEC.
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1097 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:16 pm to
I'd have to pick a team not only your list.

I think Auburn is on more of a decline than anyone in the SEC.
We have won 2 SEC games since beating Ole Miss year before last. Not to mention losing most of our assistants, almost all of them, all but the one most fans want gone. Add in the fact we just had one of the most beloved players/coaches in our history leave for a lateral move to a division rival... It certainly looks as if the rats are abandoning a sinking ship...

None of this counts the idiot we have as an AD. Most Auburn fans want JJ gone before we hire another coach, so we don't have to suffer another Jay Jacobs football coaching search. His 2 hires so far are Gene Chizik and Gus Malzahn. One a loser as a HC before he was hired, and the other was still cutting his big boy teeth (1 season as a FBS HC.)

This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:16 pm to
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Aggie Dynasty is a known LSU alter.


You cant just claim that every shitty poster who is an aTm fan is an alter
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:19 pm to
This, my friends, is how you post and actually have discussion.

Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:22 pm to
SEC programs in decline:


*Florida- have been declining now since 2009

*South Carolina- coming off the highs of the Spurrier era

*Missouri- The era from 2007-2014 is without a doubt the Golden Age of Mizzou football. While they've often had a great season here or there (like 1960), Missouri has never been as strong for this long of a period as they were from 2007-2014.

During this 8-year stretch, Missouri compiled two 10-win seasons... one 11-win season.. .and two 12-win seasons.

They had two 8-win seasons and one bad 5-win season all in between.

You don't see winning like that in Columbia for a period as long as 8 years. The 2015 season was a disaster. Mizzou might be slightly better next year, but I don't expect them to compete in the East, and 7 wins would be a stretch. I think this program has peaked and will go back to having sporadic good years from time to time.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9208 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:23 pm to
We just hired the best group of recruiters ever and you Aggies are trying to hire Brick Haley
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Aggies are trying to hire Brick Haley
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I think Auburn is on more of a decline than anyone in the SEC.


Auburn doesn't count. Auburn doesn't decline or improve as a program (with the exception of the '80s).

Auburn is a perpetual roller coaster. They're as likely to win the SEC in any given year as they are to having a losing season. And its usually when you think they are going to be bad/good when they do just the opposite.

Auburn never stays "down" for more than 2 years in a row, and again, with the exception of 1983-1989, they never stay great for more than about 2 years in a row.

So while Auburn might be "down" next year for the second year in a row, its unlikely (based on history) to be a long-term trend.
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