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Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:12 pm to
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I just don't think you can honestly lump 1946 in with those others when UT went 5 consecutive seasons in the middle with zero conference titles including a season they didn't even field a team. This is just not at all the same.



I mean, it is the same, but you want to create subjective guidelines. In 1943, over half the conference didn't field a team, so I don't see how that year can be included for anything fairly. The bottom line is that over 8 seasons, Tennessee won 4 SEC titles and had the second-highest winning percentage of the SEC era you listed. It's just you not wanting to include them because it is objectively better than one of the teams you listed. Whatever, you have been making subjective lists for years, with little reasoning for the guidelines you implement
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73186 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:20 pm to
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I mean, it is the same, but you want to create subjective guidelines.


The irony.



Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
4356 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

I mean, it is the same, but you want to create subjective guidelines.


It's not the same. If you start allowing teams to take 5-year gaps between conference titles, this entire list likely doubles. That's the whole point.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
4356 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:23 pm to
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Whatever, you have been making subjective lists for years, with little reasoning for the guidelines you implement


I literally spelled out the guidelines at the very beginning. What fits the criteria got listed.

Sorry you don't like the fact your team didn't have a period that made the cut, but when you go 5 consecutive seasons without a title I think it's a bit much to consider that team "King".

If you want to water it down, come up with your own list.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 4:30 pm
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
8192 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:34 pm to
Since full integration:

1. Bama (obviously a giant gap between them and everyone else)
2. UGA
3. UF
4. LSU
5. Aub
6. Vols
7. Ole Miss I guess?
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:50 pm to
Meanwhile: 9uburn.
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2854 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:52 pm to
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you start allowing teams to take 5-year gaps between conference titles, this entire list likely doubles. That's the whole point.


So if Tennessee had won in 1938, 1940, 1943 (when over half the conference didnt play), and 1946 they would make the cut lol. Thats retarded

Whatever anyone would take Neylands run of dominance over Auburns 1910s disputed conference titles where they didnt even numerically win the conference lol
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2854 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:56 pm to
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when you go 5 consecutive seasons without a title I think it's a bit much to consider that team "King".


We didnt even play 5 consecutive seasons cause of the war. If only Neyland had not decided to go be a general and serve his country so he could be called “King” of this conference by a twink in Birmingham despite not having a losing record to a single SEC team
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2854 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:59 pm to
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The irony.



Is that what you call it?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73186 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:52 pm to
And then six months later....






No, the irony is you whining about subjective criteria. Let's check into some of your criteria when comparing coaches:

quote:

Top 10 Finishes
Heupel 2 > Kiffin 1

Playoff Appearances
Heupel 1 > Kiffin 0

Weeks Ranked
Heupel 50 = Kiffin 50

First 5 Years
Heupel 45 Wins > Kiffin 44 Wins

First Round Draft Picks
Heupel at least 3 > Kiffin 2

Top 10 Wins
Heupel 3 = Kiffin 3

Ranked Wins
Heupel 11 > Kiffin 8

Wins in Death Valley
Heupel 1 > Kiffin 0

Wins against Bama
Heupel 2 > Kiffin 0

Wins against UGA
Heupel 0 < Kiffin 1

Highest CFP Ranking
Heupel #1 > Kiffin not number 1



You, ma'am, are a massive hypocrite.


Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
2854 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:06 pm to
Thats objective quantitative criteria you idiot

You retard. You dont know the difference between subjective and objective. Not surprised
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
73186 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Thats objective quantitative criteria you idiot

You retard. You dont know the difference between subjective and objective. Not surprised


So much name-calling, but then they do say a hit dog will holler. And you're hollering extremely loud.
Posted by McGregor
Member since Feb 2011
7214 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:11 pm to
You aren't going to be taken seriously if you don't include Ala's Rose Bowl wins in the 20's/30's. It was a big deal.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35493 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

LSU not even getting the nod under the honorable mentions for their 2001-2011 run


Undeserving.
Posted by Pat Dye 60 minutes
Member since Jun 2026
76 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

2013 #1, National Champs, SEC Champs


Bama was #1, National Champs and SEC Champs in 2012, not 2013.

We (Auburn) were SEC Champs in 2013 but lost in the NCG to Jimbo and crab legs.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Pat Dye 60 minutes
Member since Jun 2026
76 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:23 pm to
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meanwhile: 9uburn.


Damn right and now that we've got a real damn dog as a head coach, it's gonna be 10uburn, 11uburn or maybe more. When Golesh's run on The Plains is over, we gonna be putting Natty rings on our fricking toes because we've nearly ran out of fingers as it is.

It probably won't happen this season but Drago's bout to put the SEC on notice!! He ain't messing around.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40986 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:24 pm to
Underrated thread brother
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91107 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 7:00 am to
quote:

Again you're taking it out of context by ignoring what happened before. I mean look at it by season:


I'm not ignoring, and in fact acknowledged that point blank earlier ITT. If you put bama as undisputed king from 2009-2020 you wouldn't have a single soul try to refute it. it'd be truly impossible to even provide any support to do so. But it was your decision to squeeze in those extra 3 years, whihc is where I do take opposition.


quote:


2021: #2 SEC Champs
2022: #5
2023: #5 SEC Champs

you can't declare the run dead after 2020 when they followed that up with three out of three Top 5 finishes and 2 SEC titles


Interesting, let's just compare UGA during that same time frame then?

2021: UGA #1, national champs [bama finished with less wins, more losses, and ranked lower]
2022: UGA #1, national champs [bama finished with less wins, more losses, and ranked lower]
2023: UGA #3 or 4, sets record for biggest bowl victory of all time [bama finished with less wins, more losses, and ranked lower]
2024: UGA #6, [bama finished with less wins, more losses, and ranked lower]
2025: UGA #6 [bama finished with less wins, more losses, and ranked lower]


This isn't opinion, these are black and white objective facts. We have *literally* 5 consecutive years of UGA finishing higher, having more wins, and less losses than bama. In a row. During this same 5 year time frame UGA has more SEC titles than bama (3 to 2) and more national titles (2 to 0).


Looking at that I don't see how anyone could disagree. It appears taht our issue is that you've decided to use a much longer time frame. I think there is a very clear handing of the baton in Indy and that saying:

bama 2009 to 2020
and
UGA 2021 - present

is perfectly ratiuonal and correct. It is an absolute undisputed fact that no team in the SEC has accomplished anything close to what UGA has over these last 5 seasons. So carving out half of that time frame and giving it to someone else that accomplished less, based on what they've done starting 17 years ago, is just not how I'd personally frame it.

This post was edited on 7/3/26 at 7:02 am
Posted by GTnerd
ATL Jawja baby
Member since Sep 2023
870 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:15 am to
You could call the 1950’s a tie between GT and Tennessee for most dominating
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27551 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 8:21 am to
quote:

Had they beaten Georgia for the title in 2005, their 2001-2007 run would have qualified

Was at that game. UGA knew every single play we were running. The safeties would break to the correct side as soon as the ball snapped and crash forward when it was a run play.
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