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re: FML, OU wants in. They're done with Texas.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:20 am to genro
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:20 am to genro
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Seems crazy to me that cable package deals based on subscribers who may or may not actually be watching that channel are more profitable than the revenue from actual eyeballs and advertisement-ratings deal
Like Lifetime doesn't give a frick that i literally never watch that channel, they made more money just from the fact that it's in my cable package.
Yep. That's the only way to initially set subscriber fees and initial advertising prices. Later, advertising prices are adjusted based on eyeballs watching, but it really doesn't affect college football broadcasts because live sporting events are largely immune to the DVR bypass. Advertisers know that viewers will watch advertisements because NOBODY likes watching a game after the fact.
A&M and Mizzou administrations schooled the nutless bovines and dirt burglars on conference realignment because their administrations failed to understand how TV contracts work. The big 12 conference (Dan Beebe) also failed, and it was their fricking JOB to get good TV revenue.
God, I am glad to be rid of that shite-stain full of incompetent assholes.
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Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:21 am to genro
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Also it seems a la carte programming if it ever really became a thing would make this a moot issue, fsu fans would opt of SECN and suddenly become just as valuable as VTech fans. So there is hope one day
Yep. Then you can kick Mizzou out of the conference.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:24 am to genro
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Also, it seems when a la carte programming becomes the thing, it will make this a moot issue
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:28 am to KaiserSoze99
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A&M and Mizzou administrations schooled the nutless bovines and dirt burglars on conference realignment because their administrations failed to understand how TV contracts work. The big 12 conference (Dan Beebe) also failed, and it was their fricking JOB to get good TV revenue.
Its amazing that they didnt do more to stop Mizzou from walking honestly. Well, they tried but I think our admin had enough.
The Big 12 is sinking because the conference, as a whole, isnt keeping up with jones in the tier III game. The LHN network is the single thing that is sinking the Big 12. The only schools with a prayer to do something on their own (kAnsas and OU) are about done. Problem is is they have baggage in KSU and OSU. The only ones left are those that just cant pull their media revenue weight and they are just happy to eat the table scraps.
kU and OU are not great gets from a media revenue standpoint either. OU has academic issues and I still laugh at the B1G fro grabbing Nebraska with its paltry population and fall from grace from the AAU.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 12:31 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:29 am to genro
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Also it seems a la carte programming if it ever really became a thing would make this a moot issue, fsu fans would opt of SECN and suddenly become just as valuable as VTech fans. So there is hope one day
Yeah, if and when a la carte becomes the standard model, or even just a widely-used option, the dynamic of the contracts will change. But for now, the media organizations (cable, satellite, whatever) are basically telling us "You live here, so this is what you want." A similar example would be the pay movie channels in times past. They could work without advertising because cable companies would pay to be able to include them in their bundle and they were selling points for cable companies to entice viewers to purchase more expensive plans. It didn't matter if the viewers were watching all 300 HBOs. It just mattered that the HBOs were an option. Somebody who wants HBO just for "Game of Thrones" and doesn't give a damn about Cinemax, Showtime, Starz, etc, still paid for all those channels as part of the bundle.
When I lived in upstate Michigan, I could watch any B10 game I wanted because my subscription included the BTN. I almost never watched them, but the cable company assumed that, based on my zip code, I potentially wanted to. The same applies to the SEC opening in new markets.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:39 am to randomways
Guys thanks for schooling me on something I should've taken a few minutes to figure out five years ago.
I always thought it was bullshite that non-network paid premium cable channels still had commercials, the fact that that's not even their main profit source and they've adjusted their models for the DVR effect makes it even worse
Also I fully get why Notre Dame with their nationwide fanbase and NBC deal won't join a conference
I always thought it was bullshite that non-network paid premium cable channels still had commercials, the fact that that's not even their main profit source and they've adjusted their models for the DVR effect makes it even worse
Also I fully get why Notre Dame with their nationwide fanbase and NBC deal won't join a conference
Posted on 5/11/16 at 1:09 am to DannyB
Yeah it is. 
Posted on 5/11/16 at 3:22 am to Remote Controlled
Nah. Pass. I can already get my meth from the pigz.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 4:57 am to texag7
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SEC's cable television footprint by more than 10 million homes, according to Nielsen data, and giving Slive the ammo he needed to move forward with a network.
Don't fool yourself. The ammo was the 10 million homes. It doesn't matter if that market was in Texas or the Virginia/North Carolina region.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:20 am to genro
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Also it seems a la carte programming if it ever really became a thing would make this a moot issue, fsu fans would opt of SECN and suddenly become just as valuable as VTech fans.
If we ever get that far the total value of the SEC Network will be much lower. I wouldn't wish for it just so the SEC expansion math changes.
Right now college football is a bubble, and the SEC is making the most of the bubble using the B1G's model.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:24 am to kilo
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Its amazing that they didnt do more to stop Mizzou from walking honestly. Well, they tried but I think our admin had enough.
Yall got them to sign that wonderful GOR on the way out that is completely fricking OU in the face right now.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 7:44 am to kilo
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A&M and Mizzou administrations schooled the nutless bovines and dirt burglars on conference realignment
So true
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:18 am to Remote Controlled
Haven't read the thread but being in OK here is what's being talked about.
- First thing for the B12 to survive is for UTx to give up the longhorn network, not gonna happen.
- Add two teams, but there aren't two teams available that would enhance revenue enough, and no TV deal without the first thing.
- Claims out of Norman are that the SEC has offered them 3 time in the past.
- Big question is if they are tied to OSU by the legislature and nobody knows, but with the state government cutting the schools funding left and right they have less power to make them a package deal.
- First thing for the B12 to survive is for UTx to give up the longhorn network, not gonna happen.
- Add two teams, but there aren't two teams available that would enhance revenue enough, and no TV deal without the first thing.
- Claims out of Norman are that the SEC has offered them 3 time in the past.
- Big question is if they are tied to OSU by the legislature and nobody knows, but with the state government cutting the schools funding left and right they have less power to make them a package deal.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:19 am to DoUrden
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- Claims out of Norman are that the SEC has offered them 3 time in the past.
The past being the important part of that statement.
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:22 am to cardboardboxer
One thing that is mentioned was the series with UT and UT bringing over 15K fans to Norman and the return trip in front of over 100k, it was a real eye opener for them. The B12 is filled with 60K seat stadium.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:26 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 8:24 am to DoUrden
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One thing that is mentioned was the series with UT and UT bringing over $15K fans to Norman and the return trip in front of over $100k, it was a real eye opener for them.
I am sure it was. As is the SEC revenue figures and the fact we (as in A&M, a program historically worse than theirs) have done better than them every NSD since we joined the SEC.
Their problem is it's too little too late. They already locked themselves to the Big 12 until 2025.
This post was edited on 5/11/16 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:18 pm to TJGator1215
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Let's trade for OU with Arkansas. OU brings basketball and Football success. Arkansas is a leech
Could you repeat that in English? I don't speak Cuban
Posted on 5/11/16 at 12:21 pm to DoUrden
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Big question is if they are tied to OSU by the legislature and nobody knows
T. Boone Pickens is the largest single donor to the University of Oklahoma system, of which Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are members.
He won't publicly say it, but it's assumed that he stops donating if Oklahoma breaks away from Okie Lite.
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