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re: Florida will no longer use the "Gator Bait" cheer because its racist

Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32743 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:21 pm to
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It should be stopped like Tiger Bait
Lol frick you bitch

Tiger bait!!! Roll tide what?
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13357 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Florida fans, I sincerely hate you from the bottom of my heart, but this is just some straight up bullshite.



Thanks Baw,

We hate you too
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124937 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:21 pm to
Their rational is based on an urban legend told to carpetbaggers


Never happened, no more than gators getting flushed down the sewers and growing to enormous size

They are cancelling their tradition essentially due to a rumor based on a chain letter based on the weekly world news
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31050 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:30 pm to
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, there is horrific historic racist imagery associated with the phrase


Goes to look up how it is racist...

Okay, so apparently the horrible history is that the African American children of slaves were used as bait for gators. That is truly terrifying.

That said, is that a direct correlation to the phrase "gator bait"? I mean, were people in Florida seeing African-American children and using the term "gator bait" to refer to them even after the fact? If not, I don't think the phrase is racist. If so, then yeah, it probably was.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124937 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:40 pm to
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Okay, so apparently the horrible history is that the African American children of slaves were used as bait for gators. That is truly terrifying


But completely untrue. An urban legend in no way backed up by facts or logic.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14176 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:44 pm to
Might as well cancel the alligator as a mascot, based on this.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
31050 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:47 pm to
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But completely untrue. An urban legend in no way backed up by facts or logic.


No idea. There's a lot of articles from the 1900s to the 1920s that seem to imply it happened. NY Times, Miami New Times, Time magazine, Richmond Times Dispatch, etc. Apparently it made people money too - they made toys and postcards about it.

This is crazy...

That said, I am not saying get rid of the cheer.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7351 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:54 pm to
See the fine print disclaimer at the end of the article you linked. The whole thing is bullshite so they decided to cover their asses at the end so they didn't get hit with libel.


"Despite confirming the widespread dissemination of such grotesque representations of African Americans in the 19th and 20th centuries, however, the existence of these artifacts does not suffice to prove that black children were literally used as alligator bait in the South. Neither do press reports dating back to the time period when the practice was supposedly commonplace."
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52464 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Former Florida player and coach Steve Spurrier understands Fuchs’ decision.

“It kind of surprised me, but I didn’t know there was anything racial about it,” Spurrier said. “But when (athletic director) Scott Stricklin told me about some of the history of it, I said, ‘Let’s get rid if it.’ "


Basically if Spurrier didn’t say that, he would’ve been canceled.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
59131 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Basically if Spurrier didn’t say that, he would’ve been canceled.


And so that’s how the collective works.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:10 pm to
Didn't think anyone could've PC whipped the OBC
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124937 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:12 pm to
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No idea. There's a lot of articles from the 1900s to the 1920s that seem to imply it happened.



They also said that there were giant gators in the sewers of New York.

You gonna base policy on urban legends now?
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6026 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:17 pm to
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Basically if Spurrier didn’t say that, he would’ve been canceled.


I think the simpler answer is Spurrier is OK with it because he doesn’t really give a damn about fan cheers. I think he heard the supposed history, doesn’t have a strong opinion on the various cheers and was fine with one less.
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31050 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:21 pm to
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They also said that there were giant gators in the sewers of New York.

You gonna base policy on urban legends now?


I didn't say that. I'm just listing the sources. I never said there was anything beyond anecdotal evidence, and I am fully aware that for all the gripes about the media now, it was practically pure sensationalism back in the day.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:28 pm to
Yeah I can understand not wanting to throw your hat in the ring at that age over something so inane
Posted by FBD318TIGER
Member since Jun 2020
58 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:42 pm to
Of course Florida folds, can’t even walk around with beer...
Posted by HogsOfWar
Member since Jan 2015
1150 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:45 pm to
Snopes says "folklore."

LINK /
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18292 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:47 pm to
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Might as well cancel the alligator as a mascot, based on this.


I hear the black bear is available now
Posted by Tigerwm23
North Louisiana
Member since Oct 2015
598 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 8:56 pm to
What a freaking puss for a president! These bitches are beyond stupid and out of hand.
Posted by stopitnow1
Florida
Member since Mar 2013
1287 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 9:02 pm to
Tiger bait is still golden baby
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