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re: Fire Up the Coaches Board. Texas fired their A.D
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I don't hate Missouri, I just don't like them rewritting history anymore than I like it when A&M does it. Bottom line, if Missouri doesn't basically beg for a Big 10 invite, then the Big 12 is never viewed as a viable conference to be raided and I believe it's still here to this day.
Back to A&M. Let's not forget, Bill Byrne was offered a chance to split the Longhorn Network 50-50 with Texas (it would have been called something else had A&M joined), but Bryne didn't think it was an economically viable solution.Based on that belief, Byrne didn't want to pony up the money when the Aggie athletic department was still in the hole to Texas A&M to the tune of $16mill.
Now, had Byrne knew that ESPN was going to offer $300 mill, he would have been all over this. So, when that offer came down, Byrne was in hot water with Bow Tie Bowen and his fate was sealed as well.
But the LHN and A&M's lack of vision did cause the Ags to leave the Big 12. They were never going to admit they were wrong and A&M obviously had options, so they took one.
Long term, A&M to the SEC was the right move for the Ags. But at least be honest as to why it happened.
Back to A&M. Let's not forget, Bill Byrne was offered a chance to split the Longhorn Network 50-50 with Texas (it would have been called something else had A&M joined), but Bryne didn't think it was an economically viable solution.Based on that belief, Byrne didn't want to pony up the money when the Aggie athletic department was still in the hole to Texas A&M to the tune of $16mill.
Now, had Byrne knew that ESPN was going to offer $300 mill, he would have been all over this. So, when that offer came down, Byrne was in hot water with Bow Tie Bowen and his fate was sealed as well.
But the LHN and A&M's lack of vision did cause the Ags to leave the Big 12. They were never going to admit they were wrong and A&M obviously had options, so they took one.
Long term, A&M to the SEC was the right move for the Ags. But at least be honest as to why it happened.
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Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:27 pm to FishFearMe
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There wasn't a motherfrickin thing that could be done to stop the Aggies from joining the SEC. The legislature wasn't even in session, and the Governor was an Aggie.
When Texas said that we wouldn't leave and thus, leave Baylor and Tech high and dry, that's when the legislature dropped the topic and let it go.
And don't forget, Governor Good Hair publicly advocated for the return of the SWC, because that's what politicians do. He didn't care at all what conference A&M played sports.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 11:28 pm to TSipper
tsipper has diahhrea mouth.
Coming over here to post encyclopedia's after his team was run off the field by Arky and Notre Dame.
Coming over here to post encyclopedia's after his team was run off the field by Arky and Notre Dame.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 12:50 am to FishFearMe
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Back to A&M. Let's not forget, Bill Byrne was offered a chance to split the Longhorn Network 50-50 with Texas
50-50, eh?
Revisionist history at it's best.
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that's when the legislature dropped the topic and let it go.
The legislature wasn't in session when we left. Damn little they could do about it.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 12:52 am
Posted on 9/17/15 at 1:25 am to TSipper
We left because your administration was full of a bunch of arrogant, pompous, cocksucking liars who tried to push the envelop with the LHN and further marginalize everybody in the conference into be your little bitches. You were terrible business partners and you tried to negotiate our move to the PAC without bothering to tell us about it.
We fricked you in the arse by leaving you barefoot and pregnant in that shite conference with all the kids and no child support. When the Grant of Rights is about up, we will back Baylor and the kids in litigating your gak-filled asses into an eternity of Big Twatever hell.
We won realignment and it changed the landscape forever. You WERE Texas.
We fricked you in the arse by leaving you barefoot and pregnant in that shite conference with all the kids and no child support. When the Grant of Rights is about up, we will back Baylor and the kids in litigating your gak-filled asses into an eternity of Big Twatever hell.
We won realignment and it changed the landscape forever. You WERE Texas.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 1:27 am
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:11 am to TSipper
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Back to A&M. Let's not forget, Bill Byrne was offered a chance to split the Longhorn Network 50-50 with Texas (it would have been called something else had A&M joined), but Bryne didn't think it was an economically viable solution.Based on that belief, Byrne didn't want to pony up the money when the Aggie athletic department was still in the hole to Texas A&M to the tune of $16mill.
Now, had Byrne knew that ESPN was going to offer $300 mill, he would have been all over this. So, when that offer came down, Byrne was in hot water with Bow Tie Bowen and his fate was sealed as well.
Byrne was never offered a chance to join the (ESPN backed) Longhorn network. He was pitched the "Lone Star Network", and not at 50-50 cut. That Lone Star Network was a terrible idea, as proven by the fact that even with ESPN as your personal sugar daddy, that network is still a laughingstock.
Byrne was on his way out not because he passed on the Lone Star Network, but because he wasn't on board w/ the SEC move. Byrne was a Pac guy at heart, and had tried to take A&M west along w/ UTx and the kids. His vision for A&M simply didn't comport with that of the majority of Aggies.
And speaking of vision, it's comical for you to suggest that a LACK of vision was what caused A&M to leave the B12. We foresaw how much the move would help us, and it has been a greater boon than we could even have hoped. Secretly your own leaders knew it would greatly boost our brand and chances for success, which is why they gave up on the original Pac move. But your mouth-breathing fanbase fell all over themselves crowing about how "stupid agggsisess" were going to get destroyed in the SEC.
Until we won in the SEC the first year, and then it became "SECSECSEC is so overrated, a middle-of-the-pack B12 team can win there lol".
Bottom line, if Mizzou had jumped to the B1G, and UTx had been perfectly willing to remain in the B12 indefinitely, the B12 would have added one more school and carried on it's merry way. Nebraska and Colorado wouldn't have felt the need to jump for stability, so they would have remained in the conference.
Now, eventually A&M would have jumped ship when you tried to pull a fast one w/ the LHN. But at worst, you'd be the B12-2.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:13 am to TSipper
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It’s the modern day equivalent of Judas’s “30 pieces of silver” and now we just wait for Mizzou to hang itself from a tree.
Yeah, it's just like Judas's betrayal of Christ.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:02 am to TSipper
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The SWC was dead the moment the NCAA lost the right to negotiate TV contracts.
So much fail in this simple sentence.
NCAA monopoly was a B1G and PAC monopoly. Why do you think not 1 school from either conference crossed the picket line and joined the CFA? The issue was having the B12 become the B12 much sooner and taking Hogs instead of Baylor in the merger.
When the B1G announced it was adding Penn State in 1989, B12 should have formed with Big 8 + Hogs + 3 TX state schools. Sure the SWC conference dies but it was basically a single state conference in an age where single state conferences were no longer the model. Imagine if FL or CA had followed the SWC model and limited those conferences to just their state? Do you think they would have been viable today?
If you can not understand this then you are stuck in the past.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:14 am to Cooter Davenport
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Which is insanely stupid. Why would A&M want to be the westernmost outpost and outcast of an SEC with which it would have no cultural similarities of affinity?
We all wonder this.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:21 am to partsman103
I wish they'd steal Alleva....I'd be heartbroken.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:23 am to TSipper
This is just sad
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:35 am to TSipper
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Florida State, Miami, Clemson and Georgia Tech
No way in hell these teams would have went to the Big 12, you are delusional
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:37 am to TSipper
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Where Texas did make a mistake, though, was in not pursuing Florida State, Miami, Clemson and Georgia Tech at all costs. Then we should have granted Notre Dame Big 12 status in all sports save football in exchange for them playing 6 games against the conference each year.
This is one of the dumber things I've seen a Longhorn fan post on here.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:38 am to Mirthomatic
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Now, none of what UTx did was WRONG, per se. UTx doesn't owe anything to any university. They can decide for themselves what are their goals and objectives. A ruthless pursuit of advantage is not immoral, imo. Just don't ruthlessly pursue your advantage and then later try to avoid accepting that your actions had consequences for others. UTx was largely responsible for the creation of the SWC and B12, and UTx will ultimately be responsible for their destruction, once they've served their purpose.
This is who you are. Own it.
Very well put.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:49 am to TSipper
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Bill Byrne was offered a chance to split the Longhorn Network 50-50 with Texas
He was offered a chance to split THE COSTS 50/50 and the revenue 75/25 in the sips' favor.
Let's not make shite up and expect not to get called out.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 10:52 am to TSipper
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Where Texas did make a mistake, though, was in not pursuing Florida State, Miami, Clemson and Georgia Tech at all costs.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:03 am to TSipper
I still believe the reason TAMU moved to the SEC (a huge step-up btw) is largely due to UTx arrogance and TAMU knowing eventually UTx would ruin the conference.
UTx supporters are now reaping what they sow and it couldn't come at a better time. Fired the AD and the coach will be next.
UTx supporters are now reaping what they sow and it couldn't come at a better time. Fired the AD and the coach will be next.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:07 am to partsman103
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I still believe the reason TAMU moved to the SEC (a huge step-up btw) is largely due to UTx arrogance and TAMU knowing eventually UTx would ruin the conference.
Our university president straight up said exactly this in his book.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:46 am to partsman103
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UTx supporters are now reaping what they sow and it couldn't come at a better time. Fired the AD and the coach will be next.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 11:49 am to DBU
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I wish they'd steal Alleva....I'd be heartbroken.
so would I
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