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re: Feldman - Coach O and LSU agree to six year, $42 million+ extension
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:23 pm to John Milner
Posted on 1/24/20 at 12:23 pm to John Milner
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but Jimbo Fisher's career record is 100-32, which is a winning pct of more than 75%. Orgeron is 56-36, which is winning pct of about 60%.
Interesting, but lacks the context of time. If we look at trends over time:
Jimbo:
FSU
2010, 10 - 4
2011, 9 - 4
2012, 12 - 2
2013, 14 - 0
2014, 13 - 1
2015, 10 - 3
2016, 10 - 3
2017, 7 - 6
A&M
2018, 9 - 4
2019, 8 - 5
Orgeron:
Miss.
2005, 3 - 8
2006, 4 - 8
2007, 3 - 9
USC
2013, 6 - 2
LSU
2016, 6 - 2
2017, 9 - 4
2018, 10 - 3
2019, 15 - 0
It appears that Orgeron is getting better, while Fisher has peaked and now is trending down.
It also appears that Orgeron's coaching trajectory has been upward as Fishers has been downward:
Orgeron:
Mississippi < USC < LSU
Fisher:
FSU > A&M
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:26 pm to back9Tiger
We got this contract covered in stadium alcohol sales now boys. SEC fricked!!!
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:21 pm to moester75
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Seven million a year o say that’s warranted. An undefeated SEC and National Champion HC should make that
Meanwhile the 85 guys that did the heavy lifting and the actual hard work are artificially capped at Tuition Room and Board
If a college HC were really worth $7-9million per year, then that HC should be able to take 85 Ivy League Student- Athlete FB players and earn a spot in the CFP, or 85 scholly players from Rice or Vandy and do the same
Since we all know that will never happen, ever, the HC's success is highly dependent on the players, therefore the HC's true value is way overblown while the players true value is way understated and artificially capped by the evil, outdated NCAA
Ed Orgeron at Vandy does worse than Mason and goes about 2-10 every year for 4 yrs until he's fired, OTOH Mason at LSU isn't likely to hire Brady or luck into a transfer Heisman QB and go 15-0
Coaching is tremendously overrated, what would Saban's record at Bama be if the Admissions Office didn't let all of his recruits in school?
Since the players also had a great year I'm just curious as to how the NCAA apologists on this site can explain a HC doubling his pay, becoming financially set for life ,while the players that made things happen on the field get a bowl ring, a gift bag from the bowl and the same scholarship that leads to a degree from a college ranked #198 academically
1 guy gets significant financial rewards, the 85 players that made it happen get few financial rewards, the NFL is immaterial here due to the fact that colleges have their own multi billion dollar TV contracts and players should get a more fair piece of those billions
This is obviously a great system............... for the 1820s, not such a fair system for the 2020s
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:22 pm to AHM21
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SOURCE: Ed Orgeron and #LSU have agreed to a 6-year contract extension valued at more than $42 million in total… Orgeron is 40-9 since taking over at LSU and is 11-1 in his last 12 games against Top 10 opponents.
Oh, lord. This is the kiss of death. Head coach with a transfer QB better (probably significantly better) than any other he will ever have, loses coordinators who were largely credited for the team’s success, and a bunch of other key departures = bad time to extend contract.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:32 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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don't get too euphoric just yet..let it play out for a season first.
Uh, we just did to the tune of 15-0 with the NC and Heisman.
I think that's reason enough to get euphoric. But then Alabama fans wouldn't understand, never having witnessed their team go 15-0 with a Heisman winner.
Go ask the Auburn folks what can happen when a coach lands a great QB, goes undefeated, wins a natty, and gets a huge pay raise....THEN the QB graduates and the coach gets exposed. Can we spell C-H-I-Z-I-K?
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:41 pm to s2
quote:OH LAWD HAVE MERCY!!
he is not in it for the money dipstick.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:59 pm to John Milner
As it goes with Clemson's stats, Jimbo's stats are built on playing teams in the ACC.In the SEC, ahhh, not as good.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:15 pm to AHM21
He earned it....period
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:47 pm to pbro62
It always amazes me when institutions with the least financial resources are the first ones to throw money around. Then again, that's probably why they are there to begin with.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 6:52 pm to coachcrisp
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It always amazes me when institutions with the least financial resources are the first ones to throw money around. Then again, that's probably why they are there to begin with.
It always amazes me that people do not understand the importance of Athletic Programs to a schools marketing plan. When do you ever read about any Major College unless it is sports related ? And the programs who are winning a mentioned the most. Fire the NY Marketing firm that does those school commercials and use the money to pay coaches and it would be a much better return on investment.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:44 pm to AHM21
Seems like they over payed for him . I would want to see him at least win the SEC with out Brady . If last year was great because of Brady and or Burrow then they then pulled A&M .
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:22 pm to coachcrisp
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It always amazes me when institutions with the least financial resources are the first ones to throw money around. Then again, that's probably why they are there to begin with.
LSUs program was as high as 3 at one point behind michigan and texas. Things have changed, like Bamas run and tamu getting into the sec. But id bet LSU is in the top 6 in the country in revenue.
The athletic program is self funded, one of the only ones in the country. It does not pull funds from the state and actually gives back millions to the academic side every year.
Alabama is a prime example of what happens when you invest in a coach and the program.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:02 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
All of that is about to be remedied Pee Jay the players will start making money off their likeness.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:16 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Again, you're saying this to an Alabama fan who has seen enrollment nearly double since Saban's been there. The thing that you obviously don't understand is that the institution needs to spend it on people who can bring the program to the highest echelon of their sport for an extended period of time!
It always amazes me that people do not understand the importance of Athletic Programs to a schools marketing plan.When do you ever read about any Major College unless it is sports related ? And the programs who are winning a mentioned the most. Fire the NY Marketing firm that does those school commercials and use the money to pay coaches and it would be a much better return on investment.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:30 pm to coachcrisp
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Again, you're saying this to an Alabama fan who has seen enrollment nearly double since Saban's been there. The thing that you obviously don't understand is that the institution needs to spend it on people who can bring the program to the highest echelon of their sport for an extended period of time!
Saban is not the reason why enrollment nearly doubled. Offering the world to out of state students has been the major contributor to the growth. Getting the name out there is what is important, but it isn't based on the score of the game. Oregon has gotten as much attention as any program because of their uniforms and they haven't won shite. JFF created as much pub for A&M as any player in the last 10 years and A&M didn't win shite. The demographics for the 18-22 year old has much more to do with style than winning. You need a coach that will get you talked about on Sports Center, but that can be a Mike Leach or a Lane Kiffin. Coach O personality is just as important as his record.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 10:09 pm
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