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Explain to me how Jimbo isn't the same as Ed O and Chizik according to Rant standards
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:41 am
Posted on 9/28/21 at 1:41 am
All three won a NC with a generational QB...and that's it.
Out of all three, I'd say that O has the best chance to proe he wasn't a one-hit-wonder, but maybe he is.
Jimbo definitely hasn't proved it. He ran his program into the ground after his one NC, then bolted. And that program has never recovered from his tenure.
At least Auburn cut ties before they fell to FSU's fate.
And Ed O seems to be able to maintain, if not accomplish. Time will tell.
But for some reason, Ed and Chizik are treated as flukes, while Jimbo is given the benefit of the doubt and viewed by some as the next best thing to Saban.
Why?
Out of all three, I'd say that O has the best chance to proe he wasn't a one-hit-wonder, but maybe he is.
Jimbo definitely hasn't proved it. He ran his program into the ground after his one NC, then bolted. And that program has never recovered from his tenure.
At least Auburn cut ties before they fell to FSU's fate.
And Ed O seems to be able to maintain, if not accomplish. Time will tell.
But for some reason, Ed and Chizik are treated as flukes, while Jimbo is given the benefit of the doubt and viewed by some as the next best thing to Saban.
Why?
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:12 am to magildachunks
Maybe, but you can't put FSU's failures on Jimbo. That was all FSU with their hiring choices after.
They started his final season #3, but their OL had troubles and their starting QB got hurt. Which is exactly what has happened at A&M this year as well and that is notable.
But FSU still had plenty of talent and was a good program overall when he left. The coaches that followed have done a terrible job.
They started his final season #3, but their OL had troubles and their starting QB got hurt. Which is exactly what has happened at A&M this year as well and that is notable.
But FSU still had plenty of talent and was a good program overall when he left. The coaches that followed have done a terrible job.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 2:55 am to magildachunks
Right now it's because Mike Elko has carried his arse.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:28 am to 3down10
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Maybe, but you can't put FSU's failures on Jimbo. That was all FSU with their hiring choices after.
They started his final season #3, but their OL had troubles and their starting QB got hurt. Which is exactly what has happened at A&M this year as well and that is notable.
Interesting that no one gives Ed O this excuse.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:11 am to 3down10
Ummmm, yes you can and should hold Jimbo accountable for how he left FSU. Not sure why he gets a pass but others in the exact same situation don’t.
He left FSU in dire straights. One QB injury should not break a elite coach’s season, let alone send the entire program into a death spiral.
He left FSU in dire straights. One QB injury should not break a elite coach’s season, let alone send the entire program into a death spiral.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:17 am to magildachunks
Jimbo is better than Orgeron and Jimbo will never have a losing record to LSU.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:17 am to magildachunks
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:20 am to TeLeFaWx
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Jimbo is better than Orgeron and Jimbo will never have a losing record to LSU.
This is the sole reason they pay him $9 million.
Being 2-1 over LSU is equal to winning a championship in Aggieland.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:21 am to magildachunks
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:27 am to TeLeFaWx
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Jimbo is better than Orgeron and Jimbo will never have a losing record to LSU.
No he’s not. They’re both living off one one QB, recruit well, and talk in ways that make them hard to understand.
They’re a lot more alike than they are different. Difference being LSU has O on a very short leash and aggy just gave Jimbo another ridiculous contract.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:39 am to magildachunks
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All three won a NC with a generational QB...and that's it.
I take issue with this common use of the term "generational quarterback."
By definition, a generational quarterback is a once-in-a-generation phenomenon. Cam, Jameis, and Joe Burrow, are all members of the same generation, along with countless others (Tebow, Mahomes, RG III, etc.).
It's not a "generational QB" if there's a new one every year or two. Call them "best in class," perhaps, because that's what they are, the best of their draft year class.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:43 am to SidewalkTiger
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Being 2-1 over LSU is equal to winning a championship in Aggieland.
Meh. He’ll probably be 4-1 in two years.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:46 am to ibldprplgld
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No he’s not.
Yes he is and it’s not even close.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:54 am to TeLeFaWx
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Meh. He’ll probably be 4-1 in two years.
Key terms for Aggie fans:
"If"
"Maybe"
"Probably"
"When"
"Possibly"
"Next year"
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:31 am to magildachunks
Jimbo is more like Malzahn, got a ridiculous new contract for not winning a damn thing.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:12 am to TeLeFaWx
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Yes he is and it’s not even close.
You prove, yet again, your intellectual capacity is as weak as aggy’s trophy case is empty.
I’d say do better, but much like aggy football, this is as good as it will ever be.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:22 am to TeLeFaWx
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Meh. He’ll probably be 4-1 in two years.
Let’s go ahead and pre-print a plaque with “ 4-1 against lsu. ” on it since college station has a trophy company that does this kind of thing.
I thought Telefawx was one of the smart ones. Not so.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:51 am to dstone12
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I thought Telefawx was one of the smart ones. Not so.
In Aggie land he is practically Enstein.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:55 am to magildachunks
Overall coaching records for each, not including their (possibly fluke) championship years:
Gene Chizik: 24-38 (.387)
Ed Orgeron: 49-42 (.538)
Jimbo Fisher: 98-32 (.742)
I mean, that's probably why they aren't mentioned in the same breath. Fisher is clearly above the other two.
Gene Chizik: 24-38 (.387)
Ed Orgeron: 49-42 (.538)
Jimbo Fisher: 98-32 (.742)
I mean, that's probably why they aren't mentioned in the same breath. Fisher is clearly above the other two.
Posted on 9/28/21 at 8:13 am to Snout Spout
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I take issue with this common use of the term "generational quarterback."
By definition, a generational quarterback is a once-in-a-generation phenomenon. Cam, Jameis, and Joe Burrow, are all members of the same generation, along with countless others (Tebow, Mahomes, RG III, etc.).
It's not a "generational QB" if there's a new one every year or two. Call them "best in class," perhaps, because that's what they are, the best of their draft year class.
Most of those names are generational for their respective schools. A&M had one in Johnny Football but they couldn’t even win their own division with him.
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