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re: Explain basic LSU economics to me

Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8611 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Because LSU sports is not broke.

Why is that so hard for you to understand?


LSU is fricking broke and has been for years.

Explain thie shite.


You didn't read your own link did you?
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:23 pm to
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Maybe it has something to do with this ?



Personal Income (per capita) By State



Nice chart from 2005 dipshit
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65858 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:24 pm to
I’d rather have one major school
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12604 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:27 pm to
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Explain basic LSU economics to me


Just not a lot of money in truck nuts and corndogs.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56010 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:38 pm to
It's pretty simple

LSU TAF is well off and has one of the best revenues in the nation.
Louisiana has to many colleges and the constitution is horrible. (only allows cuts to Ed and Health Care)

Actually LSU as of today has the highest paid staff in the country. Not exactly broke. We still have to pay off 3 or 4 coaches buyouts. (Les, Johnny Jones, 1 or 2 past assistants I don't remember)

I believe LSU is profitable in all three major sports (Football, Baseball, and Basketball) very few schools can claim this.

Academically Louisiana is broke NOT LSU alone. Louisiana has a strange constitution that protects cuts from everything but education and healthcare. So when the economy was struggling they only way Jindal could keep a balanced budget was gutting higher ed and hospitals. Baton Rouge closed an ER a couple years ago)

Another issue is Louisiana has to many four year colleges.
LSU
LSU A
LSU S
LT
McNeese
Nicholls
Northwestern
Southeastern
Southern
SUNO (11% graduation rate, which is up from 2011)
ULL
ULM
UNO
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8250 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:40 pm to
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Another issue is Louisiana has to many four year colleges.


Thanks to idiot legislators funding TOPS instead of running a decent government. One of the many reasons I left, paying too much in taxes and getting jack from it.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56010 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:44 pm to
TOPS is basically a give away to easy to get. Make the academic requirements more rigorous to receive TOPS and you could save the state a lot of money.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:53 pm to
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Louisiana has a strange constitution that protects cuts from everything but education and healthcare.


This basically. The only way to seriously handle the issue long-term is to write a new constitution but's it's much safer and easier politically to badger the legislators and then for the legislators to "find" more revenue.

I mean, lord forbid we cut some of the BILLIONS that state budget has increased in the past decade.

Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56010 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:59 pm to
LINK

State can cut higher ed and Health Care, but not a coral reef program that turns old oil rigs into habitats for fish.
Posted by eyeofthetiger3
Mandeville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
544 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:11 pm to
It completely amazes me how any Southern state can bash another for the very same that they are.

One school bashes another for having red necks of hillbillies....we all have them.

One school bashes another for being uneducated....we are all near the bottom.

Fact is we are all more alike than different so stop with the bashing!!!
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:16 pm to
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State can cut higher ed and Health Care, but not a coral reef program that turns old oil rigs into habitats for fish.


Louisiana's motto - If you like something, make sure to protect it in the State Constitution.

We're so fond of constitutional protections, Louisiana cannot change gun laws now (to tighten or loosen them) without a constitutional amendment.

Louisiana's constitution adopted - Jan 1, 1975
Times Amended - 297
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Willowglen
Member since Sep 2017
36 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:23 pm to
How one views LSU differs from the perspective of a stakeholder.

A serious and talented in-state student can do very well at LSU. On my last visit to Baton Rouge, my daughter and I met a delightful, polite and bright young African American woman from New Orleans majoring in Electrical Engineering on scholarship but also working her way through school for living expenses. I have no doubt she received a competent engineering education. And frankly representative of what one can find at a state flagship university. This of course is anecdotal, but the point remains - serious students can do well at any of the SEC schools, including LSU.

From the perspective of faculty and staff, LSU could likely be limiting for the best and brightest. They won’t consistently pay in the arms race for top faculty, and if one doesn’t obtain tenure, the next job can be difficult to obtain. If denied tenure at a Duke or Stanford, a professor can generally move on to a state flagship somewhere and succeed. A little tougher at LSU. But tenured professors at LSU likely have an enjoyable career -LSU is a major university.

From the perspective of in state residents, athletics provides great entertainment. I think the key is to use athletics as a springboard for economic development for the school. Clemson has done just that in the past view years.

LSU folks are friendly. I still wear the LSU Track T-shirt given to me decades ago while competing in Division 1 track and field. And while a Northerner by birth, kind gestures like that make me a bit of a fan.
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