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re: Everyone who's followed Brian Kelly over the years knows...
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:43 am to Pandy Fackler
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:43 am to Pandy Fackler
My view of LSU has changed once I looked at their roster. Unlike some other teams where coaches have early success, they are VERY young. More than I had originally thought.
But while I think their team will likely improve, I do think some of their success this year was a bit of a mirage. I think their winning the west was more about Bama not being the normal Bama we're used to... and if they were we'd see LSU as a 8-4 non division champ which is probably an accurate representation of how their team played rather than a 9-4 team that made it to the SECCG in their first season.
I believe Kelly is a very good coach who will improve LSU to a certain level. What I doubt is that he is an elite coach who can win a national title at LSU. To use a comparison... I see him as a Mark Richt type coach... not a Kirby Smart. He can make LSU very good... but just a step below what is needed to win a national title.
But while I think their team will likely improve, I do think some of their success this year was a bit of a mirage. I think their winning the west was more about Bama not being the normal Bama we're used to... and if they were we'd see LSU as a 8-4 non division champ which is probably an accurate representation of how their team played rather than a 9-4 team that made it to the SECCG in their first season.
I believe Kelly is a very good coach who will improve LSU to a certain level. What I doubt is that he is an elite coach who can win a national title at LSU. To use a comparison... I see him as a Mark Richt type coach... not a Kirby Smart. He can make LSU very good... but just a step below what is needed to win a national title.
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:44 am to Pandy Fackler
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If LSU for instance was actually undergoing this "complete rebuild" they've lied to themselves about, then the A&M loss would be forgivable.
Did you forget CBK was in the 30's on the number of scholarship players on the roster after our Texas Bowl loss last year, where we had to start a WR at QB just because there was no need to burn a redshirt for Nussmeier?
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Well Brian Kelly takes the 8th ranked roster in the country, defaults into a division title, has a legit shot to make the playoff and then at the end
Where the hell did you come up with that bullshite? 8th ranked roster? Maybe 8th ranked in the SEC. Defaults into a division title? I think you meant won the division title
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:44 am to DawginSC
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What I doubt is that he is an elite coach who can win a national title at LSU
He won huge everywhere else he’s been and we know you can win an NC at LSU, so there really no reason to think that other than you just don’t want to see it happen.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:45 am to Pandy Fackler
If you're scared say you're scared. 
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:45 am to Pandy Fackler
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Well Brian Kelly takes the 8th ranked roster in the country, defaults into a division title
Man we really turned Bama into 2003 Ole Miss
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:45 am to SidewalkTiger
Nobody moves the goalposts as well as these dipshits
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:47 am to DawginSC
quote:Signed, Miles and Orgeron.
but just a step below what is needed to win a national title.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:48 am to TigerinKorea
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Good thing it doesn’t matter who the head coach is at LSU (three consecutive coaches won championships). We’ll be fine.
None won another and the last two were fired. To save time and win more championships y'all should fire each coach the same year they win the Nattie.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:49 am to Draconian Sanctions
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He won huge everywhere else he’s been and we know you can win an NC at LSU, so there really no reason to think that other than you just don’t want to see it happen.
You give the common LSU fan reply.
No one ever answers the follow up question, though.
How many years do you give Kelly to win a national championship. All "circumstances" aside, at what year do you say "he just isn't going to win one"?
It feels so automatic to LSU fans since Saban, miles, and orgeron.
It feels so automatic but none of them won a second at LSU.
Trust me (and the rest of college football). Winning the national championship isn't easy. It isn't automatic.
After year 1, how many more seasons does Kelly get before the fanbase says that he isn't a national championship caliber coach?
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:51 am to meansonny
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You give the common LSU fan reply.
You mean I told you the truth?
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After year 1, how many more seasons does Kelly get before the fanbase says that he isn't a national championship caliber coach?
Depends, but probably 5 or 6
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Winning the national championship isn't easy. It isn't automatic.
Oh really????
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:52 am to Pandy Fackler
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He's not a great coach. Not at all.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Oh really????
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He won huge everywhere else he’s been and we know you can win an NC at LSU, so there really no reason to think that other than you just don’t want to see it happen
"No reason".
Maybe it is hard to do is a good reason.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:55 am to meansonny
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He won huge everywhere else he’s been
I mean he beat LSU a few times at ND... I think those are the biggest games I can remember him winning in the post season.
So I can see how LSU fans think this way
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:55 am to meansonny
You said you doubt he’s good enough coach to win a title, which is silly considering what he’s done in his career and where he is now.
That obviously doesn’t GUARANTEE he will.
That obviously doesn’t GUARANTEE he will.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:56 am to Pandy Fackler
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There's actually a lack of mental preparation.
See, this is how I know you do not watch LSU and are trolling. It was a lack of depth. The loss of Smith was huge and we just do not have a DL rotation, go watch how much football BJ, Wingo, and Gaye have played all year. All you saw in the last two games is guys wearing down over a season getting very little reset and recovery. They knew what to do, they just could not make their bodies do it at the end of the year. I cannot remember the last breather that BJ got all year. Contrast that to how #88 for Georgia would get entire series off to rest. LSU's DLINE could not do that all year long.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:57 am to UltimaParadox
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I mean he beat LSU a few times at ND... I think those are the biggest games I can remember him winning in the post season.
Do you remember the state Notre Dame was in when he got there, and the long history of postseason issues they had before BK showed up?
Either you’re very young or you just don’t want to be fair because you don’t want him to be successful at LSU.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:59 am to Pandy Fackler
pre-melt. you aren't a fricking rado state fan so assuming aggie alter because you get your lunch money taken everytime your closet case arse opens your mouth round here
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:00 am to Draconian Sanctions
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He won huge everywhere else he’s been and we know you can win an NC at LSU, so there really no reason to think that other than you just don’t want to see it happen.
He's lost in the biggest games at all his other stops. All of his "big win" seasons have ended with a loss.
12-1 in 2012. Lost in championship game.
10-3 in 2015. Lost in Fiesta bowl.
12-1 in 2018. Lost in Cotton Bowl.
10-2 in 2020. Lost in Rose bowl.
His team also lost their Fiesta bowl in 2021, but he didn't coach that game.
He also lost the Orange bowl at Cincy in 2008.
The biggest bowl game win he's ever had is the Citrus bowl. He has gotten his team to a lot of big games (just like he got LSU to the SECCG this year). But he's lost all of them. That is plenty of reason to think he's not going to be able to win a national title at LSU.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:00 am to meansonny
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But many times, that is due to personnel constraints. I don't know the LSU program enough to pinpoint what is coaching and what is personnel.
Definitely some depth issues.
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Every one of LSU’s four starting defensive linemen played at least 53 of 76 snaps. Mekhi Wingo played 74 of 76 and BJ Ojulari played on every single down. On average, LSU’s starting D-linemen played 66 of 77 snaps (87%). By comparison, none of Georgia’s starting defensive linemen played more than 45 of 75 snaps and they averaged just 32 snaps (43%). Those numbers point to a massive disparity in depth.
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:01 am to VooDude
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Who in the frick is this guy?
A Butthurt Domer
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