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re: ESPN will sweeten the pot if SEC adds 9th game.

Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:26 am to
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:26 am to
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I assume UGA would be UF, Auburn and either Vandy or UK but possibly South Carolina. USC has not been a conference foe as long as the other 2 but UGA has played them a BUNCH.
It has to be USC. UGA and USC is the 2nd geographically closest pair of SEC schools behind State and Alabama.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3199 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:06 am to
As an Arkansas fan, I wouldn’t hate this but would miss annual games with Ole Miss and LSU. Actually, I would prefer OM and LSU over whatever other option there is.

What would actually happen is Arkansas being paired with some combination with Mizzou.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 7:07 am
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
7678 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:14 am to
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This is why Clemson and FSU need to join. Otherwise we're gonna get stuck playing 11 power opponents every year


Correct. Hoping we don't go to this set up.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11483 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:29 am to
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It has to be USC. UGA and USC is the 2nd geographically closest pair of SEC schools behind State and Alabama




South Carolina would be my choice if it were up to me. Great series, usually a good game, good fans and, living in the Augusta area, a great Friday night festival before the Saturday game every year....even when both teams are down or UGA is likely to beat them by 40 points Border Bash is a pretty fun event....
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7802 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:30 am to

No thanks , ESPN/ ABC/ Disney …. the game itself is awash with your tv money …. and has essentially ruined collegiate athletics.

How about we cut you revenues instead .
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12322 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:38 am to
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It's embarrasing we only play 8


I also want a 9 game SEC schedule but this comment is absolutely stupid. Even at 8, the SEC usually leads in strength of schedule.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1926 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:39 am to
Is this the thread where everyone says they should play a couple decent teams and a patsy, while Bama must play three perennial powerhouse teams?
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12322 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:43 am to
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Is this the thread where everyone says they should play a couple decent teams and a patsy, while Bama must play three perennial powerhouse teams?


Well, since that's never been said before, we don't know.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
39941 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:57 am to
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don't mind it, I hope the other 3 conferences follow suit too. We all know they will eventually extend the playoffs to 16 teams.


B1G and Big-XII already play 9. It’s the ACC and SEC that only play 8.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
7836 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:01 am to
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We would have had 9 already had Saban not thrown a fit at having LSU Tennessee and Auburn


Although I hate defending Little Nicky, this is not true. Saban has said he was in favor of 9 games. The opposition came from the SEC bottom feeders who did not want to add another loss making it less likely that they would be bowl eligible.
Posted by Wishbone85
Member since Nov 2024
922 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:03 am to
I would be good with Oklahoma's 3 permanent opponents being Arkansas, LSU, and the swimming school.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8698 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:08 am to
2 perm, 7 rotating. This is the way. That way every team plays in every SEC stadium at least once in a 4 year span, and also home/away within 4 years. This was how it was when we we were a 12-team league, and we have gotten away from that since expansion. It shouldn't take 12 years to visit another team's stadium. It's a travesty. The SEC has some of the biggest and most iconic football stadiums in the country, definitely the most feared. If we expand to 9 games, get back to visiting all of them regularly and that will drive up interest and bigger league contracts.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2404 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:09 am to
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3 permanent opponents?
I assume UGA would be UF, Auburn and either Vandy or UK but possibly South Carolina. USC has not been a conference foe as long as the other 2 but UGA has played them a BUNCH....


Looks like UGA has played USC about the same number of times as Kentucky, around 78 or so, while they have played Vandy about 90 times. Of course everybody is going to want Vandy as a permanent opponent LOL...


Looks like maybe Vandy has played UT, UK and Ole Miss more than anyone in the conference...
So, 2 years ago, when they were supposed to make the decision on scheduling format, the conference office decided that they would try to competitively balance the permanent opponents by dividing the league in two, based upon conference winning percentage the preceeding 10(?) years. Teams that were in that top half of that division got two permanent opponents from the top half, and one from the bottom, while teams in the bottom half got two from the bottom and one from the top.

The break between the upper half and the lower half was A&M (upper) and Tennessee (lower). This meant that, in putting together Bama's permanent opponents, UT counted as their low team, so the conference office proposed Bama's permanent opponents to be Auburn (upper), UT (lower) and...surprise! Nic...LSU (upper). This didn't play well with Saban, who switched on a dime from being the biggest proponent for a 9 game schedule to opposing it, and tipped the balance.

Now that ESPN has offered what will probably work out to $3 million per school per year, the money excuse is probably off the table. So, I think 9 will happen. However, I hope that they give up on the idea of balancing the permanent opponents, because you just can't do it and come up with something that makes sense. Furthermore, with the 9 game schedule, if you have 3 tough permanent opponents, your rotating opponents are going to be weaker, so it should be pretty much a wash.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
7235 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:23 am to
Obviously Bama's 3 should be Auburn, Tennessee and Miss St. I'd miss beating LSU most every year, but the other 3 make more sense.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86641 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:43 am to
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Saban has said he was in favor of 9 games.


until he found out who Alabama’s 3 opponents would be, then he changed his tune

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Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2738 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:55 am to
Sorry if already posted:
$50-80 million dollars more

I’d be willing to bet it’s already been decided that the sec gets a ninth conference game. Nd/clem 12 year home and home(which is great for Clemson) doesnt make sense for notre dame unless they suspect it’s going to get tougher to schedule non con against quality opponents.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7948 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:25 am to
so between 3.125M and 5M more per school for one additional conference game? that doesn't come close to moving the needle on an already $811M payout -

this is the once chance to get it right for the long term - and if cash-strapped budget cutting ESPN is making a 50-80M opening bid - a 9th game is worth more and they know it -

Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3771 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:51 am to
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We still haven’t started talking about the 4 Division Pod system. this is gonna be a long offseason discussion if we go to 9, and then whether we go to 2 divisions, or 4 pods. Etc etc.


If they decided on two divisions, I would prefer it be divided with the original sec members in one and the additions in the other.

So much tradition has been lost with expansion.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2404 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:11 am to
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Obviously Bama's 3 should be Auburn, Tennessee and Miss St. I'd miss beating LSU most every year, but the other 3 make more sense.
Yes. It's very obvious for Bama, and that's why the contrived balancing was so ridiculous. Now, it won't work out that neatly for everyone, but if they will just stop overthinking it and go with the obvious matchups, it will all work out over time.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2404 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:14 am to
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so between 3.125M and 5M more per school for one additional conference game? that doesn't come close to moving the needle on an already $811M payout -

this is the once chance to get it right for the long term - and if cash-strapped budget cutting ESPN is making a 50-80M opening bid - a 9th game is worth more and they know it -

It's actually lower, because the conference office takes a share to fund operations, so divide by 17, not 16. But, I've said all along that we aren't going to get some windfall from ESPN for the 9th game. All this offer indicates is that they are willing to cover the loss of gate revenue from one cupcake game every other year, but little else. That's because they already have the full SEC schedule under contract. In a way, they are bidding against themselves. The SEC just doesn't have that much leverage here.
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