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re: ESPN just fine without the big 10

Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:11 am to
Posted by ClassicCityAlum
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2019
883 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:11 am to
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ou guys keep bringing up all of your titles in every other post and good for you but the people who matter will always view the B1G as 1 and the SEC as 2


The people who matter? You mean the people in objectively the worst region in the country? The people in Chiraq (most of whom don't even watch NCAA), Des Moines, Omaha, Cleveland, St. Louis? You all spend all Saturday watching college football because you live in shite cities, it's -10 degrees outside, you have no coast to occupy your time, no economy, and nothing else to do.

I'd contend that the people who live in places like Miami, Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, D.C., Tampa, etc. matter more than the cows in the Midwest.

How many championships has the B10 won in this century? How many different teams have actually won a championship from the B10 in this century?

Exactly. Sit the frick down, fricking clown.
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
Member since Aug 2022
215 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:13 am to
As far as the football on the field being played...Bama and Georgia make the SEC the superior conference...without those two schools...SEC is still good but not Great.

I never disagreed with you on the Big 10 only having Ohio State.

I am not here to bash the SEC...I enjoy watching SEC games...just like I enjoy watching Big 10 games, Pac 12 games, MACtion, ACC, and Big 12.

Posted by Island_Tiger73
DA BAYOU
Member since Aug 2016
895 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:20 am to
Does the Lil 10 hang banners for TV contracts?
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2710 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:21 am to
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never disagreed with you on the Big 10 only having Ohio State.


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As far as the football on the field being played...Bama and Georgia make the SEC the superior conference..


I’m pretty baffled by you moving the goal posts. So are we only talking recent years? Because LSU won a championship more recently than Ohio State…. Ohio State hasn’t won a ship in almost 10 years. Auburn was fresh off a national title the last time Ohio State won one.

It seems like you are constantly moving the goal posts here. The reason the SEC is so much better is the conistancy that multiple teams every few years are competing for titles. You are saying Georgia is one of the reasons the SEC is good? They just won their first ship in 40 years.. if you’re only basing things off recent years than Ohio State isn’t even a great program. They haven’t won shite.

Proving once again… you really have no idea what you’re talking about do you ??
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:27 am to
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Penn State and Florida are equal and irrelevant...


Yes and No

Penn State had their balls before they joined the B1G and probably would be more relevant today if they had joined the ACC instead. What the B1G does is to draw you in with money so they can eat your soul (like a Black Widow or Praying Mantis). The B1G is structured to feed ONLY MeatChicken and BuckNuts. It was not always this way (BuckNuts was a VERY late add to the B1G in the early days) as Minnesota was an early football powerhouses and Chicago before they left to focus on education (Tulane did the same in the SEC).

When Chicago dropped out, it allowed BuckNuts in (MeatChicken was already power) and after WWII the die was cast to feed these 2 schools at the expense of everybody else, look at the history ...


Michigan State (like Penn State) had multiple MNC's so they took the money lure and joined the B1G. Since joining in the 1950's they have NEVER won another MNC.

Penn State had multiple MNC's and a fine football history till they took the B1G money lure. Since joining in the B1G in the 1990's they have NEVER won another MNC. To add insult to injury they kept Penn State (the first announced schooling that realignment era) as the orphan "The Big Televen" with no partner and no CCG for another decade or two.

Nebraska was a true king of CFB. At the time they were in the 2nd most powerful football conference behind the SEC. Blair Report leaked in 2009 and the Big Red was off to the the B1G for the $$$ and the "academics". As soon as they joined it was the votes of their new B1G buddies who voted them out of the AAU! Since joining the B1G they have lost prestige in both academics and CFB. They too have not had a MNC since doing the B1G.



Florida was never a football school till Charlie Pell got there and built the foundation for Galen Hall to build (As a Nitter you should be familiar with him). Spurrier took that and went the next step. Urban did the same. Florida has the history and facilities now to compete. The right coach and they are right back in the hunt for future MNC's. That is the difference between SEC schools like Florida and B1G schools like Penn State.
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
Member since Aug 2022
215 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 9:28 am to
If you are just wrapped up in titles then yes Georgia just made the list.

Georgia has been great for a few years...you can be a great team and not win a title.

SEC has proven they are the best on the field for the last 20 years...I am not arguing with you on that...

I was a big fan of the Joe Burrow story so I was pulling for LSU in 2019.

Urban's Florida teams were great also.

I have been a fan of Coach Saban since he was the coach at Toledo when I was a student at Toledo. Always happy to see Coach Saban have success.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:34 am to
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I have been a fan of Coach Saban since he was the coach at Toledo


I love when a MAC school jumps up and bites a P5 school in the butt. Keeps the P5's alert and aware.

Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
3100 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 11:49 am to
We know we know, you've won every title. You guys have only mentioned it in every post.

I hate to break it to you, but NYC, Philadelphia, DC, and LA are not in the midwest.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:00 pm to
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I hate to break it to you, but NYC, Philadelphia, DC, and LA are not in the midwest.


Looking back, Chicago may have been the smartest B1G to leave it

B1G will never be the Ivy League
B1G is falling farther behind the ACC and SEC in watchable year round sports
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90571 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:00 pm to
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You guys keep bringing up all of your titles in every other post and good for you but the people who matter will always view the B1G as 1 and the SEC as 2. The B1G is an A+ while the SEC is a B


Lolz
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
Member since Aug 2022
215 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:03 pm to
Actually, ESPiN is still in talks with the Big 10.

All networks are waiting to see what the Big 10 does in regards to expansion.

They all want the After Dark action the Pac 12 has until Oregon, Washington, Cal and Stanford join the Big 10.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:07 pm to
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They all want the After Dark action the Pac 12 has until Oregon, Washington, Cal and Stanford join the Big 10.


East coast is asleep and the West coast is Pro sports

B1G could add the whole PAC and still will not move the "quality content" from the ACC and SEC. It will however probably insure Notre Dame joins the ACC and all the B1G manipulations will have failed by not landing the Irish.

Bigger question with the PAC now broken, would Stanford go to the B1G?

If I were the ACC I would be on the hot line to get Stanford and Notre Dame in the same swoop. Both are PRIVATE schools and the ACC seems to be the most adept place for good PRIVATE schools to land.
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
Member since Aug 2022
215 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:10 pm to
$100 million annually compared to $30 million annually...Stanford would join in a heartbeat.

The Big 10 could get BAMA to come to the Conference with that kind of money.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54662 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:19 pm to
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$100 million annually compared to $30 million annually...Stanford would join in a heartbeat.


Stanford is Harvard rich, they can do whatever they want as they don't need the money.

Their historic ties (via religion) means Notre Dame may be the canary in the coal mine as to where Stanford ends up

Look at the last B1G adds
Penn State = Public
Nebraska = Public
Maryland = Public
Rutgers = Public
UCLA = Public
USC = Private (but paired with UCLA)

Washington = Public
Oregon = Public

Now look at the ACC additions with realignment
2004 = Miami / PRIVATE
2005 = Boston College / PRIVATE
2013 = Notre Dame / PRIVATE (all sports but CFB)
2013 = Syracuse / PRIVATE
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2710 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:48 pm to
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But we are similar to the SEC in that we only have 2 really good teams also and then everyone else playing for a winning season.


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SEC has proven they are the best on the field for the last 20 years...I am not arguing with you on that...


Your original point is that the SEC and Big10 are similar? They aren’t. At all. The SEC has multiple teams go through cycles of up and down and winning a championship. The Big10 has Ohio State and then has Michigan and Michigan State being dismantled in the CFP by SEC teams. I fail to recognize how the two conferences are similar.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90571 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:49 pm to
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What a great idea. It's almost like someone should've thought of this before



I remember when State beat Michigan 52-14 with Relf at QB
Posted by TideFaninFl
On the space coast
Member since Oct 2017
6633 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 12:52 pm to
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$100 million annually compared to $30 million annually...Stanford would join in a heartbeat.


But it will not be close to that if the Big Ten keeps adding The TV deal gives 62.5 million, BTN adds another 20 million, so 82.5 million per team. If you add more teams, that figure goes down.

The Big Ten is reacting to what the SEC did with OU and UT, but they are adding lesser programs.
Posted by NitsFan71
Ohio
Member since Aug 2022
215 posts
Posted on 8/26/22 at 1:22 pm to
Those numbers are correct for the first two years.

However, with this new contract being back-loaded...from 2026-2030 it will be $100 mill per school annually.
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