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re: ESPN FPI is out

Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:02 pm to
Freeze headed to Oxford and will stomp Ole Miss.!

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:06 pm to
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don't want to say it's worthless, but returning starters isn't all that in college football. I think Alabama generally ranks at the bottom and near dead last in that stat.


It much more important to a school like Iowa State (a place where they obviously don't rack up blue choppers every year) than it is Bama plus your backups obviously get a shite ton of PT during most of your regular season schedule.

ISU vs OU will be interesting this season and look forward to watching it.

ETA Lets not forget that they split last year so it won't be much of a stretch if they beat em again.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 4:11 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Using Ms St for the example with Dak Prescott and that team. Ranked #1 for how long with a average ranking class of 34-40?

It matters a lot.



And that team beat zero top 25 teams and got boat raced by GT in. the Orange Bowl
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:18 pm to
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No. We are unique. No other college can do what we do.


We? He is a Bama fan, not a Miss St fan
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:24 pm to
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We? He is a Bama fan, not a Miss St fan


Like I said. We
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:30 pm to
Op this list is a hot steaming turd.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:37 pm to
time will tell
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Like I said. We


We would apply if he was a Miss St fan with you
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22718 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:41 pm to
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No. We are unique. No other college can do what we do. You and I both know that. For others, they rely on developing talent to have a chance.

Using Ms St for the example with Dak Prescott and that team. Ranked #1 for how long with a average ranking class of 34-40?

It matters a lot.



It doesn't matter if Miss St was falsely ranked #1 for any period of time, what matters is where they end up.

They beat nobody that year. 8-5 Auburn was over-ranked when they played them, so was 8-5 LSU and 8-5 Texas A&M. That was their best wins that season. When they finally played good teams, they lost. Finishing the season with 3 losses.

So no, Miss St doesn't really prove anything.

Not to mention Miss St occasionally pulls in 5 stars and a few 4 stars. 6 4 stars in 2012, 3 4 stars and 1 5 star in 2013. etc.

Everything you say justifies Iowa St to be a top15 team. But no way in hell a #4 spot.


Posted by Parrish_Dawg
Enemy Territory
Member since Dec 2018
789 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:42 pm to
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ESPN FPI is out


You lost me at ESPN.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9418 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:22 pm to
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I love Leach at State. He’s so beatable.



Sounds like somebody is scared
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32906 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:44 pm to
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If Leach would have had a spring last year, he wins those 3 games.


What if those 3 teams had a spring last year too?
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17277 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 8:16 pm to
Lynch wins. Going away.
Posted by IBleedMaroonDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2016
414 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 9:35 pm to
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1-Alabama Crimson Tide with Ole Miss Rebels

2-Oklahoma Sooners

3-Clemson Tigers

4-Iowa State Cyclones

5-Ohio State Buckeyes

6-Texas A&M Aggies

7-Georgia Bulldogs

9-Oklahoma State Cowboys

10-Penn State Nittany Lions

11-Notre Dame Fighting Irish

12-Longhorns

13-North Carolina Tar Heels

14-Florida Gators

15-Wisconsin Badgers

16-Auburn Tigers

17-Oregon Ducks

18-LSU Tigers

19-TCU Horned Frogs

20-Miami Hurricanes

21-Texas Tech Red Raiders

23-Iowa Hawkeyes

24-West Virginia Mountaineers

25-Indiana Hoosiers

88-Mississippi State Bulldogs






FIFY
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 10:46 pm to
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What if those 3 teams had a spring last year too?



None of those teams were transition an offense like MS St. An honest person can admit that.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40014 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:23 pm to
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None of those teams were transition an offense like MS St. An honest person can admit that.



UGA was installing a completely new O and trying to find its qb. Point is you and everyone else is just guessing at what happens if they have a spring game.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/10/21 at 11:53 pm to
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UGA was installing a completely new O and trying to find its qb.


You made an easy change vs what MSU did and you know it.

Here is what you did in 2019:

Ran it 37 times and passed it 29 times per game (average)

In 2020, You ran it 37 times and passed it 30 times per game.



MSU went totally in a different way. The system has very little likeness, unlike UGA. It's not even CLOSE to being the major over haul MSU went through.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32906 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 2:10 am to
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None of those teams were transition an offense like MS St. An honest person can admit that.


Back to the point, your claim was stupid.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4587 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 6:42 am to
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If Leach would have had a spring last year, he wins those 3 games


quote:

Ark, UGA, and Ole Miss


Man Ole Miss and Arkansas really got a leg up over state last year bringing in new coaches but getting that waiver from the ncaa so they could practice but State couldn’t.

What will happen THIS year now that we’re all on an even playing field.

Posted by themetalreb
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2018
4023 posts
Posted on 4/11/21 at 7:02 am to
Steve Robertson compiled this list...if you know, you know...

MSU was worse, much worse, in their last game than they were in their first...and here’s another news flash: NOBODY had a spring...all all those cute little “improving” stats for Leach at new schools all occurred at non-SEC schools...it was amazing to me how a simple rush 3 formula completely dismantled that offense last year...
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